UK Student Protests: Wheelchair-bound student dragged across the road by police officer, BBC defend

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LightspeedJack

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A video has surfaced on Youtube of a disabled student with cerebal palsy being pulled out of a wheelchair and dragged across the road for no reason by a cop.


This is an interview with the student on BBC News. The BBC are at every oppertunity trying to spin the situation in the police's favour. The police force made no attempt to apologize or recognise the sickening act in any way. The cop supposedly did this to incite violence from the other students.


**SORRY THIS POSTED TWICE IS WAS A PROBLEM WITH MY INTERNET CONNECTION, I APOLOGIZE.
 

spartan231490

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Prove it. It's a one minute video, you have no proof as to what happened that caused the cop to act this way. For all we know, the cripple deserved it. He is a cop, if you can't trust him not to abuse cripples, how can you trust him to uphold justice and the law? Interesting philisophical question right there. Why do we allways assume the cop is at fault when one of these show's up, and not the other way around? My bet is on projection. We identify more with the non-cop, therefore we project ourselves onto the non-cop and think "I wouldn't have done anything wrong so it must be the cop's fault" sub-consciously at least. That's my two cents, not that I have any reasonable credentials for that to be taken as fact, but it IS my opinion.
 

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spartan231490 said:
But what could he have possibly done, you can see he is just sitting there, what possible threat could this hadicapped person have done to warrant being dragged across the road.
 

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LightspeedJack said:
spartan231490 said:
But what could he have possibly done, you can see he is just sitting there, what possible threat could this hadicaped person have done to warrant being draggeda across the road.
He could have been trying to incite a riot/violence or anything like that.
 

Gindil

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Please... Look up Cerebral Palsy. HOW can he do anything from a wheelchair and loss of motor skills?
 

spartan231490

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Gindil said:
Please... Look up Cerebral Palsy. HOW can he do anything from a wheelchair and loss of motor skills?
You do realize he still has the ability to talk and push buttons right. This could allow him to incite a riot through his words, not all that hard, or possibly to activate a bomb. I doubt he had a bomb or the probably would have just shot him or it would be on the new or something, but you should get the idea. Just cuz he has cerebral palsy, doesn't mean he cant be a threat. I mean, there's a reason tyrannical governments control what thier citizens are allowed to say. words can often be the most powerful weapons of all.
 

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Well, the police were excessively violent during protests. I did actually go to some of the Bristol protests, and they seemed a little baton happy. And kettled people in for a day in sub zero temperatures.

I'm not usually one for the 'POLICE R EVVVILLZ!' thing, but they can't handle protests properly at all.
 

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Thats pretty fucking bad... I mean, why not just push him wherever they wanted to take him in the wheelchair? Not like a guy with Cerebral Palsy is going to be able to do much to stop them.

Doesn't seem like he actually did anything bad anyway, from the video it looks like the guy at the start says "The guy in the wheelchair just gave a talk about the *something*". Didn't sound like he was trying to incite violence or was shouting abuse.
 

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Gindil said:
Please... Look up Cerebral Palsy. HOW can he do anything from a wheelchair and loss of motor skills?
He could be the working force of the Riot/Mob by yelling out and etc.

This is too vague so I can't answer OP.
 

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LightspeedJack said:
spartan231490 said:
But what could he have possibly done, you can see he is just sitting there, what possible threat could this hadicaped person have done to warrant being draggeda across the road.
Throwing rocks, bottles that sort of stuff would usually receve that type of response
 

spartan231490

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Bobzer77 said:
Thats pretty fucking bad... I mean, why not just push him wherever they wanted to take him in the wheelchair? Not like a guy with Cerebral Palsy is going to be able to do much to stop them.

Doesn't seem like he actually did anything bad anyway, from the video it looks like the guy at the start says "The guy in the wheelchair just gave a talk about the *something*". Didn't sound like he was trying to incite violence or was shouting abuse.
What possible motive could a police officer have that would push him to drag a cripple out of his wheelchair and across the steet, during a riot which is almost guaranteed to have at least a few cell phones with camera utility kicking around? The only explanation that makes sense is that the officer believed the kid was a threat, whether or not he really was is not as big of an issue. He gave the police reason to think he was a threat, and he got dealt with. It's not like they shot him, or beat him, or threw him in jail. They manhandled him a little, and probably embarrassed him, big deal.
 

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LightspeedJack said:
spartan231490 said:
But what could he have possibly done, you can see he is just sitting there, what possible threat could this hadicaped person have done to warrant being draggeda across the road.
In my opinion he might have done something, as the video is not that clear a the start and it doesn't show the before hand, but if he actually did something, it shouldn't warrant taking him from his means of transportation and dragging him across the floor.
 

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drbarno said:
LightspeedJack said:
spartan231490 said:
But what could he have possibly done, you can see he is just sitting there, what possible threat could this hadicaped person have done to warrant being draggeda across the road.
In my opinion he might have done something, as the video is not that clear a the start and it doesn't show the before hand, but if he actually did something, it shouldn't warrant taking him from his means of transportation and dragging him across the floor.
I'm confused as to what you mean. If the kid did something that could have incited a riot, which would have resulted in property damage, and possibly even death, he doesn't deserve to dragged across the road? If he was a threat, there are much less reasonable ways they could have acted to stop him, like shooting him. I'm going to put my benifit of the doubt with the police on this one, they'd have to be pretty stupid to drag a cripple across the street at a riot full of college students with cell phones, if they didn't have a damn good reason.
 

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spartan231490 said:
Prove it. It's a one minute video, you have no proof as to what happened that caused the cop to act this way. For all we know, the cripple deserved it. He is a cop, if you can't trust him not to abuse cripples, how can you trust him to uphold justice and the law? Interesting philisophical question right there. Why do we allways assume the cop is at fault when one of these show's up, and not the other way around? My bet is on projection. We identify more with the non-cop, therefore we project ourselves onto the non-cop and think "I wouldn't have done anything wrong so it must be the cop's fault" sub-consciously at least. That's my two cents, not that I have any reasonable credentials for that to be taken as fact, but it IS my opinion.
Thanks for saying this. I wanted to say this, but I couldn't be bothered to word it properly and then defend my position.

So, ditto.
 

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spartan231490 said:
Prove it. It's a one minute video, you have no proof as to what happened that caused the cop to act this way. For all we know, the cripple deserved it. He is a cop, if you can't trust him not to abuse cripples, how can you trust him to uphold justice and the law? Interesting philisophical question right there. Why do we allways assume the cop is at fault when one of these show's up, and not the other way around? My bet is on projection. We identify more with the non-cop, therefore we project ourselves onto the non-cop and think "I wouldn't have done anything wrong so it must be the cop's fault" sub-consciously at least. That's my two cents, not that I have any reasonable credentials for that to be taken as fact, but it IS my opinion.
Surely it would've been easier to move him on his wheelchair
 

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Even if the man had been inciting the crowd, the police could have just pushed the wheelchair across the road. Dragging him from his chair was not necessary, and showed that the police at the scene were exercising very poor judgment. I know police hate student demonstrations because it's so easy for things to get out of hand in the chaos, but this is excessive force.

Off topic, I really wanted to hit that news anchor for the way he was trying to spin the situation.
 

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Jonluw said:
spartan231490 said:
Prove it. It's a one minute video, you have no proof as to what happened that caused the cop to act this way. For all we know, the cripple deserved it. He is a cop, if you can't trust him not to abuse cripples, how can you trust him to uphold justice and the law? Interesting philisophical question right there. Why do we allways assume the cop is at fault when one of these show's up, and not the other way around? My bet is on projection. We identify more with the non-cop, therefore we project ourselves onto the non-cop and think "I wouldn't have done anything wrong so it must be the cop's fault" sub-consciously at least. That's my two cents, not that I have any reasonable credentials for that to be taken as fact, but it IS my opinion.
Thanks for saying this. I wanted to say this, but I couldn't be bothered to word it properly and then defend my position.

So, ditto.
My pleasure. Anything to do instead of studying for my final in an hour is appreciated. If I cram much more in my brain without a rest, my head might explode.