...I could have sworn that I did say I thought the music sucked. And why would I suggest that a fellow who sits down and writes a glowing review of this album doesn't actually know what his own opinion on the subject is? Clearly he thinks it is good, and I am baffled by why he thinks that but certainly not going to argue that he doesn't think that - that would just be silly!Steel_crab said:HATERS ARE NOT SILENCED. But seriously dude, if you don't like it, just say that you don't - Reviews are just people's opinions - If you want to express yours, make a counter-review saying it sucks - don't say that he appears to have misinterpreted his own opinion.
I'm going to take a logical leap here and assume that Asylum is referring to the latest Disturbed album (a conclusion I only came to because I'd just read WhamBamSam's review of it, as I've never listened to Disturbed in any meaningful capacity), but who released Fever? Also, why would you consider those two particular 'modern metal' albums the only other contenders for 'modern metal album of the year' status?Unabletothinkofname said:To clarify: when I said "modern metal" I meant the umbrella genres of metalcore, deathcore, melodic death metal, etc. So I was just saying that in MY OPINION it's the best modern metal album of the year, and when the contenders are Fever (shit on a stick) and Asylum (wallpaper paste on a stick) I can afford to call it that.
Fever is by Bullet For My Valentine, possibly the dullest band in existence, other than Disturbed. And I was just making a general comparison to two other albums released by well-known artists this year.Gildan Bladeborn said:Snip
Well, you shouldn't. The review was very well written, for those who could make it past the picture (which I could). This album has basically turned my opinion of BMTH around completely. As you yourself know, I used to despise them with a passion.Unabletothinkofname said:Well, these comments have pretty much made me want to give up reviewing completely.
Cheers.
On the Architects/In Flames thing, they were the first two bands that popped into my head, so, y'know. <_<irequirefood said:el snip
Ah fair enough then. Well I probably don't really have much of a say in that area thenUnabletothinkofname said:On the Architects/In Flames thing, they were the first two bands that popped into my head, so, y'know. <_<
Also, Option Paralysis is a fucking belter.Again, when I said modern metal I meant mainstream metal like metalcore, melodeath etc etc.
Earlier:Gildan Bladeborn said:...I could have sworn that I did say I thought the music sucked. And why would I suggest that a fellow who sits down and writes a glowing review of this album doesn't actually know what his own opinion on the subject is? Clearly he thinks it is good, and I am baffled by why he thinks that but certainly not going to argue that he doesn't think that - that would just be silly!Steel_crab said:HATERS ARE NOT SILENCED. But seriously dude, if you don't like it, just say that you don't - Reviews are just people's opinions - If you want to express yours, make a counter-review saying it sucks - don't say that he appears to have misinterpreted his own opinion.
This looks like opinion-bashing to me.Gildan Bladeborn said:On the topic of the review itself and not the tool-osity of the band member's visual stylings: I automatically take issue with you calling something the "modern metal album of the year" when the word "deathcore" is present in the review in any capacity besides a term of derision
We all seem to be in agreement with regard to Bullet For My Valentine. I can sort of understand why you'd think that about Disturbed, given that they don't do much that's all that innovative among the more modern styles, but to someone like me who finds these sorts of genres almost uniformly despicable, the application of a modern alternative edge to the more melodic style of the classic Sabbath/Priest/Maiden mold is enough to produce something that I thoroughly enjoy. I assume that you already saw my review tonguebathing Asylum, and any further expression of my disagreement would just make me an asshole. I'm guessing that you didn't think much of Nightmare either. The couple of tracks that I've heard off of it were pretty decent (and having Mike Portnoy on drums definitely helped).Unabletothinkofname said:Fever is by Bullet For My Valentine, possibly the dullest band in existence, other than Disturbed. And I was just making a general comparison to two other albums released by well-known artists this year.Gildan Bladeborn said:Snip
And I have heard of Mutiny Within, though I haven't heard them, other than two songs on compilations on Metal Hammer CD's, which were Oblivion and their cover of Highway To Hell. It was pretty good. I am serious, and I will give it a look.
No, it's me too. I prefer Option Paralysis to the new Iron Maiden album, and Maiden are my favourite band. It's pretty remarkable.irequirefood said:In my opinion that goes to Dillinger Escape Plan's Option Paralysis. But that's just me.
Your sir get a cookie for bring up Scar Symmetry. That band makes me happy to have ear drums. Not so impressed by Dark Matter Dimensions. Go check out Christian Avelstam's new band Solution .45 they are AWESOME.Gildan Bladeborn said:The irony there being that Pantera has been around for longer than just about every band I rattled off, but yes, I can see there's probably a distinction between 'modern metal' and metal from the modern era (pretty obvious what I think of the first category, bleh).WhamBamSam said:I suspect by "modern" he's referring to styles that originated from the likes of Pantera, Fear Factory, and Korn.
Part of that was hyperbole, as I think the actual most painful sound I've heard a human being produce whilst under the guise of 'singing' is whenever the lead vocalist of In This Moment screams (it is somehow infinitely worse than a man screaming nonstop), and harsh vocals by themselves don't necessarily turn me off a band either - I've come to appreciate them quite a bit depending on the context.As I said in my Opeth review, harsh vocals generally don't really bother me, but they don't really work as a replacement for clean vocals. They're more of an added instrument as they're generally a tad on the unintelligible side and don't really sound like the things one would expect to come from a human being. Without any progressive turns or strongly melodic guitar work, music that primarily uses harsh vocals gets dull pretty quickly.
It doesn't help that the screaming is, to a certain degree, genuinely irritating, but even with the best possible growls courtesy of someone like Mikael Akerfeldt, nothing I heard would be all that special. It isn't even like Mastodon or Death where the vocals cock up what would otherwise have been great, and I sort of feel bad about disliking it. There's nothing particularly redeeming here at all. They've somehow managed to be even more generic and uninteresting than Bullet For My Valentine, which is saying something.
So no, that wasn't really painful, just really really annoying and completely devoid of anything I find musically interesting - and the screams were just so damn prominent that even if the background accompaniment was brilliant (which it wasn't, as you so correctly point out) I probably wouldn't have noticed it. It's becoming increasingly apparent to me that the phrase "shitty deathcore band" contains an unnecessary adjective.
Though in Mutiny Within's case that's got more do with their very strong progressive leanings than the virtues of Metalcore. [/spoiler]
I would chalk up our kindly and long-suffering OP as someone who just has terrible taste, but I've seen partial lists of just what he listens to for fun and there's a surprising degree of overlap between us that makes proclaiming this stuff to be brilliant all the more baffling. I really can't reconcile those facts in a way that makes sense.
(Totally agree with you on Bullet For My Valentine by the way.)