I... what? out of all the ways they could have changed her character they did THAT?! I haven't watched the show and have only read the books and its because of weird changes like that that makes me not want to watch the show. Some of the other changes I'm strangely okay with like Renly and sir Loras being lovers but that was only because it was kind of implied in the books to begin with.IOwnTheSpire said:Has anyone else experienced moments in films, shows, or games that made you very uncomfortable? There's one that makes my chest ache whenever I think about it. It's from Game of Thrones, and while the show tends to show things like murder and rape in a negative light (as it should), there's one moment they just gloss over:
The age of adulthood in Westeros (therefore the age at which you can consumate a marriage) is 16. Tommen Baratheon is 15, Margaery Tyrell is 24ish. In the books, they can't consumate the marriage because Tommen is underage (12 in the books, Margaery is 17 in the books). Do they keep that for the show? Of course not. Instead, Margaery RAPES Tommen (since he's underage, it IS rape) multiple times, and then BRAGS about it to her ladyfriends. Holy. Shit. I was able to tolerate turning Margaery into an Anne Boleyn clone, but this crosses the line as far as I'm concerned.
Anyone else got any moments that make you uncomfortable?
Remember Saving Private Ryan where that dude was getting stabbed real slow when help was just downstairs? The guy on the stairs was afraid to come up and help, meanwhile his ally is up there fighting for his life. I hate that scene more than any other in the movie.vledleR said:Slow deaths. The ones that stick out in my mind are Jamie Smith in Black Hawk Down, Mikey in Rocky III, and Joey in Sometimes a Great Notion
You too, huh? Same. I wonder what it is about Watamote that doesn't turn me off like other cringe comedy shows? My best guess would be that in most cases, the cringe is self-inflicted, so you kind of feel like she brought it upon herself. If anything, I like that the only thing presented as hostile and oppressive is Tomoko's own mind. The show seems to present everyone around her as being pretty harmless, or even friendly.Queen Michael said:I hate cringe comedy. I can't stand it. Well, except for in Watamote.
Statutory rape is still a form of rape. The reason it's different than something like Meryn Trant is that the show makes it clear that what he's doing is disturbing; the show tends to show horrible things in a negative light, but this one instance is merely glossed over. Even the actor playing Tommen found it disturbing and uncomfortable; frankly, they should've just stuck to the books in this instance, since there's no reason for such a change.LeathermanKick25 said:Statutory Rape is in a completely different area from Rape. Not to mention it's never explicitly said 15, but around age 15. Which in a lot of countries is a mere year away from the legal age of consent. Not to mention...it's Westeros. Is there even such a thing as age of consent? If not then while it may be a bit odd, wouldn't be considered rape. And if all the things in that show is what bothers you (no mention of Meryn Trant and his thing for way, way younger women in a brothel?) is that scene...christ. Your priorities are all wrong.IOwnTheSpire said:Has anyone else experienced moments in films, shows, or games that made you very uncomfortable? There's one that makes my chest ache whenever I think about it. It's from Game of Thrones, and while the show tends to show things like murder and rape in a negative light (as it should), there's one moment they just gloss over:
The age of adulthood in Westeros (therefore the age at which you can consumate a marriage) is 16. Tommen Baratheon is 15, Margaery Tyrell is 24ish. In the books, they can't consumate the marriage because Tommen is underage (12 in the books, Margaery is 17 in the books). Do they keep that for the show? Of course not. Instead, Margaery RAPES Tommen (since he's underage, it IS rape) multiple times, and then BRAGS about it to her ladyfriends. Holy. Shit. I was able to tolerate turning Margaery into an Anne Boleyn clone, but this crosses the line as far as I'm concerned.
Anyone else got any moments that make you uncomfortable?
OT: Nothing really. I'm really desensitize to a lot of things that have traumatized others. I used to watch The Knick whilst eating dinner, and for those who have seen that show, you know how realistically graphic it is.
Ah yes, that was the name, thanks. I have a very bad memory when it comes to names of movies, persons and so on. Or my mind just tried to supress the memories (to no avail). Hm, but now that you've mentioned it.. Yeah, this movie just had a very bleak/spiteful feel to it, like the director/writer/whoever just had a very bad day because someone took a dump in his muesli and shagged his favourite toaster.Casual Shinji said:That show was called Geno Cyber and it's probably one of the vilest anime's out there. And not because it was violent, but because it shows no regard or respect for it. It's like watching a vicious child torture an animal, and not even gleefully, but with a banal look on his face. I've seen hentai that had more class then this anime. It came out in an era when the hard-edged, post-apocalyptic, cyberpunk genre was popular in anime, so a lot of studios just made really trashy anime filled with shock value. And Geno Cyber was the worst of them all.Spakko said:snip
Here in Sweden, it []is[/i] the age of consent.LeathermanKick25 said:Statutory Rape is in a completely different area from Rape. Not to mention it's never explicitly said 15, but around age 15. Which in a lot of countries is a mere year away from the legal age of consent.IOwnTheSpire said:Has anyone else experienced moments in films, shows, or games that made you very uncomfortable? There's one that makes my chest ache whenever I think about it. It's from Game of Thrones, and while the show tends to show things like murder and rape in a negative light (as it should), there's one moment they just gloss over:
The age of adulthood in Westeros (therefore the age at which you can consumate a marriage) is 16. Tommen Baratheon is 15, Margaery Tyrell is 24ish. In the books, they can't consumate the marriage because Tommen is underage (12 in the books, Margaery is 17 in the books). Do they keep that for the show? Of course not. Instead, Margaery RAPES Tommen (since he's underage, it IS rape) multiple times, and then BRAGS about it to her ladyfriends. Holy. Shit. I was able to tolerate turning Margaery into an Anne Boleyn clone, but this crosses the line as far as I'm concerned.
Anyone else got any moments that make you uncomfortable?
I totally forgot about that, and I agree, yes. It creates an anticipational (is that even a word? Ehh, doesn't matter) feeling quite similar to the curb scene in American History X. Perhaps this is related to empathy? But yeah, fingernails doing that, is quite unpleasant to think of feeling. How do we shut off that sensitivity?sageoftruth said:I'm taking a serious risk writing this, since I really don't want the image burned into my brain, but any scene that involves damage inflicted upon fingernails. I recall a scene from the Battle Royale manga where someone is trying to climb a well with her bare hands, or a torture scene in Blade of the Immortal, or that scene in Witcher 3, which I won't spoil. Nothing makes me cringe like the mental image of stuff like that.