Understanding the 4th Dimension! (Will make your brain explode)

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Gondito

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Today Kotaku featured this extremely interesting article on perceiving the Fourth dimension, They talk about a puzzle game called Miegakure coming out using 4D as a dynamic element, but I am putting this in off-topic because I want to talk more about the topic of The Fourth Dimension, not the game itself. Read the article for more info on the game.

The article is here, its a great read, and will probably make your brain hurt (in the trying to learn something your brain cant comprehend way) but if your too lazy/unmotivated to read it, I'll just post a passage from it summing up the idea of 4D, for discussion purposes.

Linky link (has lots of helpful videos for understanding 4D)
http://kotaku.com/5585099/the-man-who-will-bring-us-to-the-fourth-dimension

Concept of 4D explained through relationship between 2D and 3D
If you have a 3D object, say, a cube, you have something that you can slice. If you cut a horizontal slice into it, you have, essentially, defined a flat square, a 2D plane that exists within the cube. The Miegakure game presents the player with a key trick early on. Imagine that cube and that slice cut through it. Now imagine that cut being rotated inside the cube, rotated so that it no longer defines a horizontal cut but a vertical cut. The new slice and the original slice would have one intersecting line of substance in common.

Let's say that the first horizontal slice of the cube was the first world of Super Mario Bros. And let's say that, as Mario ran through the slice, the player could, at any moment, press a button that would rotate the cut through this cube. Mario's next step would not be on his Super Mario Bros horizontal slice; it would be up the new vertical slice. Mario would have smoothly jogged from one lovely 2D view of the world to one that cut into that view of the world at a right angle. Poor, flat Mario would never be able to zoom out and see the cube containing his worlds, but he would be able to explore its 3D space by running from one 2D cut of the world to the next.

Miegakure is all of that, but with the player's character exploring 3D slices of 4D.

So I'm posting this, because to me at least, the topic of dimensions we can't comprehend/see is infinitely interesting. Some people think the 4th dimension is time itself, but if thats true what about the 5th and 6th dimensions? Could "God" exist in the 4th dimension? If we could enter the fourth dimension would we even know or see it?

P.S. I don't want this to turn into a religious discussion because I mentioned the possibility of a God existing in another Dimension, its just an example of a way science and religion have been connected through a concrete dynamic. I'm not saying I believe in God, or that he exists in the 4th dimension, its just a possible discussion.

Discuss!
 

Benefactor

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InnerRebellion said:
Argh my brain, it kills. I didn't understand half of that.
I feel you. I think I'm going to have to read a lot on this before my brain finally begins to understand it, then implodes.
 

Dexiro

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Isn't the 4th dimension time? Whatever was going on in that article i didn't understand it D:
 

Faulty Turmoil

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You do know we live in a 4D universe, but we can only see 3 dimensions, the four are:
Length
Width
Depth
Time

And the universe is made up of a 4D "fabric" called spacetime. That's the theory anyway, I think it has been proven but I can't remember.
Heres's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
 

Video Gone

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I think Lovecraft put it best:
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."
H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

This just scares me, really. No-one must play this game, or we will surely face ruin the likes of which we have never known.
 

flaming_squirrel

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Hmm, sort of understood what he was on about there, even if it was impossible to imagine...


But if you want something that'll really melt your brain: Time is not consistant or linear, it's bound by gravity. Then try to comprehend what gravity really is. HURGHHHHHH.
 

no oneder

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Yes, I happen to have a summer house in the fourth dimension, down at the beach. Although its winter there right now.
 

TheTaco007

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I don't like the article you linked. It seems like the reporter doesn't understand it, and thinks of it as some kind of biblical thing.

Cool concept nonetheless.
 

TheTaco007

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flaming_squirrel said:
Hmm, sort of understood what he was on about there, even if it was impossible to imagine...


But if you want something that'll really melt your brain: Time is not consistant or linear, it's bound by gravity. Then try to comprehend what gravity really is. HURGHHHHHH.
Can I get a source?
 

Gondito

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Zeithri said:
Am I the only one who finds this completely uninteresting and pointless?

I.. don't find this very impressive at all. And to point out "Is the 4th Dimension the dimension where GOD lives?", that's just being overly optimistic about something that's not really impressive (Like GOD).
I'm not being optimistic or pessimistic about God. Hell, thats not even the right word. How could someone be "overly optimistic" about God being in the 4th dimension? that makes no sense. I don't believe in God. I'm just using the idea of him as an example for what someone who could perceive the 4th dimension could do. (ie: see the past and future, enter and leave and perceive the 3rd dimension from anywhere at any angle)

How about you leave your pretentious attitude at the door. Also, how could talking about the 4th dimension be pointless? It's just an interesting theory to investigate. If you came to this thread just to bash the idea of a fourth dimension without attempting to contribute to the conversation, I'd have to say thats Trolling.

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