Universal Music Shoots Down 8-Bit DJ Hero De-Make

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Awexsome

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I... don't see him getting very far with that Halo project either. Maybe M$ couldn't bring down the hammer if Bungie still had the IP but I have a feeling it'll suffer the same fate.
 

AndreyC

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I'm a law student, and I have to say copyright laws are by far the most annoying juridic guarantee there is. Not that there shouldn't be copyright protection, but some lawsuits are plain silly and the interpretation given to the law is just too strict...
 

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Awexsome said:
I... don't see him getting very far with that Halo project either. Maybe M$ couldn't bring down the hammer if Bungie still had the IP but I have a feeling it'll suffer the same fate.
Maybe.

Maybe not. We will just have to wait and see.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Mr.Tea said:
Activision has nothing to do with this; No one from Activision has sent him a C&D letter for making an 8-bit DJ Hero.
Universal Music though, sent him a C&D letter for making 8-bit versions of one or more of their songs and distributing them in his game.
Huh, how about that. I just read Activision in the title and assumed the worst. I suppose I owe Activision an apology. They wont get it, ever, but I owe them one.
 

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again, it wasn't whether he could have and did have this shut down, it's whether it is actually going to do either the music company or the artists involved any good either in terms of image or finances.

Sometimes they should really stop, take a breath, decide 'is this going to cut the number of mp3's legally sold, or is it an interesting diversion that will probably draw more people than ever in to listen to music they previous had no interest in?'

In effect, is this piracy, or free advertising, and if it's a grey area, to which end of the spectrum does it lie?

I STILL for the life of me don't see an ECONOMIC reason for shutting down music videos, which are adverts for bands and artists, and people are not going to hold a party and queue up 3 hours of youtube clips instead of owning some cds or itunes tracks.

I personally hope this spreads like wildfire and hits a good 100 million downloads, compared with the couple of thousand it may have got without legal intervention. Not out of malice of course, I just want those 80s artists to get more free advertising and sell a few more compilation cds to prove me right :D

Laywers, no-one is listening to chip music because they don't want to buy the originals.

Honestly does anyone go into law with the aim of doing some good in this world, or were they just too much of a **** to be selected as a reality show judge and had to go train as a lawyer?

Of course, I know there's good lawyers out there defending people in need and trying to get bad guys locked up, but damn, it does seem every time you read the word lawyer, it's some big corp crapping on a little guy because they can afford better lawyers, rather than thru any of that 'justice' stuff.
 

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Now just wait. One. Second. Heow.

That thing about mashing up copyrights and therefore being able to be sued on the grounds of derivative etcetc?
Does it really work that way? I mean, people can just get away with remixing whatever they want can't they?
 

moretimethansense

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn's this fall under fair use?

Particularly because this is a tribute/parody that isn't being charged for,
Weird Al yankovic legaly doesn't have to ask if he can alter a song and he earns money from it, to be blunt I'm fairly certain that this is bullshit and they are merely trying to scare him in to giving up a project they have no actual right to stop.

Kinda like thoses copywrite lawyers that are suing a lawyer that is telling people how to defend themselves in court.
 

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Fumbleumble said:
Hexenwolf said:
How about a murderer who considers himself an artist? Perhaps paints with his victim's blood. If he gets caught and cries out "I am creating art!" And it is responded by "The law is the law, you can't murder people." Is that being an idiot ass lawyer?
What an absolutely ridiculous arguement... Hope you didn't spend too much time on that.

@ everyone else.... really? you didn't see this coming?

Anyway until you all decide to actually get involved not one of you deserves a voice in this matter.

It's universal for god's sake.. you want to hurt them, or send them a message, then practice some restrain.

Buying music.. DON'T buy anything from any of Universal's 'artists'. If you are buying a game.. DON'T buy one that says Vivendi or Universal. Going to the movies.. DON'T pay to see one by Universal or any their shell studios. Simple.... but none of you will actually 'deprive' yourselves of their shiny, bright, distracting for an hour crap, so none of you actually deserve to moan about it.

Shit, or get off the pot.
Spent about two seconds on it. You know what hyperbole is right?

Other than that, I agree with everything else you said.
 

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Hexenwolf said:
TsunamiWombat said:
"US Law is US law, beep bop gnork gnork"

Translates from lawyer speak to,

"I don't understand what the fuck your doing, but I hate you, tra la la la la"

Idiot ass copywrite lawyers.

ENJOY THE TASTE OF YOUR NEWEST PR SNAFU.
Calm down. His response was perfectly reasonable.

How about a murderer who considers himself an artist? Perhaps paints with his victim's blood. If he gets caught and cries out "I am creating art!" And it is responded by "The law is the law, you can't murder people." Is that being an idiot ass lawyer?

That being said, I disagree with this action and I do think they making a mistake, but I think the automatic reaction of pretending that they're not real people or that they're somehow retarded for following the law is ridiculous.
Well that's not true at all, a murderer is totally morally wrong. Someone speading 8 bit versions of songs, is morally grey.

The way I see it, the 8 bit versions distributed would generate revenue towards the artist, not take away from. This is why the lawyer is an idiot. He is shooting the company he works for in the foot.
 

higgs20

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Hexenwolf said:
TsunamiWombat said:
"US Law is US law, beep bop gnork gnork"

Translates from lawyer speak to,

"I don't understand what the fuck your doing, but I hate you, tra la la la la"

Idiot ass copywrite lawyers.

ENJOY THE TASTE OF YOUR NEWEST PR SNAFU.
Calm down. His response was perfectly reasonable.

How about a murderer who considers himself an artist? Perhaps paints with his victim's blood. If he gets caught and cries out "I am creating art!" And it is responded by "The law is the law, you can't murder people." Is that being an idiot ass lawyer?

That being said, I disagree with this action and I do think they making a mistake, but I think the automatic reaction of pretending that they're not real people or that they're somehow retarded for following the law is ridiculous.
the two situations aren't exactly comparable are they? personally i don't think all lawyers are dicks but due to the civility of ruth's response and the sheer coldness that came back i get the impression that this one is.
 

cerebus23

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If he lifted the songs directly used them note, lyrics and etc but they are 8 bit sounds ffs. I have a very hard time seeing how he stole anything. Activision get a fing life. 8 bit songs plus no money being charged for the thing equals fair use in my book, especially since you can listen to the all or most of those songs on utube in full definition with lyrics and actual instruments.
 

Andy Chalk

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Hey guys, as already noted, Activision had nothing to do with this. In fact, the bit from the FAQ (which... I got... from... umm... OMYGODLOOKOVERTHERE) about hoping he wouldn't end up being sued be Activision actually goes on to say that as Ruth "understands" it, people at Activision were aware of the project and seemed to be cool with it.

I know Activision is the new EA (or, maybe, the old EA) but in this case the rush to judgment is unfair. They're totally innocent in this one.
 

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I don't think he should be sued, but calling the damn thing DJ Hero and using their stylistic logo was a bit much.