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The Rockerfly

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Dear fellow Escapists

Is it worth going to university? I have a choice this Thursday when I get my results of going off to university with business management and marketing and is it worth it?

Really nervous because it's 4 years long and I will have a massive great debt or should I just go get a job?

How many are you off to university or going into full time work?

If anyne is going to give me advice I live in the UK so if anyone knows which would be better to do I would be very grateful
 

The Rockerfly

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Eukaryote said:
Well, do you want to? If you only want to go to university to make more money in the future then I have no advice for you, but if you want to go to university to study something you love then go for it.
I would like to for the experience but would it be worth it in the end in terms of debt and how long I am going to have to work to pay it of

Yes I did take maths, how did you know?
 
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Yes, especially in the cases of business careers. Marketing careers it's even more essential.

If you are fairly confident that you want to get a job in a business of any kind (literally, retail, marketing departments, publishers, any company with a large payroll) then you will need a degree in order to get anywhere. It is still just possible to do the 'trolley boy to vice president' journey, but you will spend most of your life working very physically demanding, very low paid jobs in order to make those promotions.

By contrast if you have a good degree from a respectable university then you will be able to enter a graduate training programme and within five years you could be earning over 30,000. For a little more information the average non-graduate salary would be at maximum 15,000 a year, and you'd be more likely to start out around 10-12 grand and have to work a second job to cover living expenses, or else live with your parents.

Our system is broken and it sucks but if you want to get anywhere without relying on massive amounts of luck then you will need a university qualification, along with taking several other short courses to boost your CV and provide you with more experience.

When a manager is looking over the CVs he's been sent, unless the job is something menial and physical (mail sorters, shelf stackers etc) then he will automatically reject anyone without a university (or at the least some form of vocational qualification in the chosen field) education.

EDIT: In terms of debt, you will come out with roughly 24,000 pounds of debt, but you won't get charged on it until you are earning over 15,000, and with a graduate degree you are (as previously mentioned) more likely to be earning over 15,000 very quickly. Once you have a graduate job, paying back your debt won't be as much of a problem as you think, because while there is a lower limit, you'll be able to reach it easily, and if you have a very well paid job then you'll be able to pay back more should you wish.

In terms of the general experience, I would say that, going into third year, university has been one of the most positive experiences of my entire life, I've learned a lot about the world, been very independent, and generally met some great people and had a fantastic time of it. If you get involved in things early (whatever your interests you will find a club or society or just a group of friends who are the same) then you will have an awesome time.
 

RobThePrezodent

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I'm getting my results on thursday as well, and then hopefully going off to uni. As to whether you should go or not, I guess it's your choice, if you think you'll get something out of it or if you think it would be for the best just finding a job, it's your call.
 

Fenring

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Have you thought about doing a gap year or something just to think and get some money?
 

SL33TBL1ND

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If it's something you think you'll enjoy then go for it. No point in doing something you're going to hate.
 

The Rockerfly

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MelasZepheos said:
Okay, thank you. That was the sort of explination I really needed

I owe you one

RobThePrezodent said:
I'm getting my results on thursday as well, and then hopefully going off to uni. As to whether you should go or not, I guess it's your choice, if you think you'll get something out of it or if you think it would be for the best just finding a job, it's your call.
Good luck to you too then. I think I am going to see what I get then make a decision based on that
 

Eyelicker

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In the current economic climate, anyone without a degree is at a serious dissadvantage. Alot of employers consider it the bare minumum.

Seeing that you're English, the student loan scheme is actually very humane here, and you only have to pay it off when you're making above a certain amount. I'd just go for it. Uni is a great experience, the degree is invaluable, and you don't really have to worry about money that much (within reason).

Student loans, and banks, are all very leniant when it comes to students in my experience.

I'd say go for it. The people who drift and arn't sure what to do often end up quite directionless and unhappy. If in doubt, do it.
 

BennoTheDutch

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I live in Holland and because our government is kind enough to give a basic monthly payment to all students the choice was easy for me: go study. However, it is not uncommon to work for a year. It does not matter that much, as long as you do get your papers at the end of the road. You can't find a decent job without qualifications. With that decent job, you should be able to pay off your loans. My advice: just go study and get a parttime job.