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chadachada123

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Windcaler said:
When was this patch? Because I just got the jets flares maybe a week ago (Ive hardly touched jets and quite frankly I suck with them).
360 patch came out today. PC patch a few days ago, PS3 a week or so ago.
 

Corven

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Doesn't Valve do something like this with Team Fortress 2? Except in the way Jitters Caffeine describes it?
Not really, for one thing tf2 is now free to play, also most if not all the weapons are sidegrades or reskins rather than full upgrades that make you just plain better like of the unlocks in bf3.

Basically you can stand on equal footing with other players using the default weapons in tf2 which isn't the case in bf3.
I agree about the re-skin/side graded weapons and the game being free-to-play. It's just that you have the option to buy anything you want if you don't want to wait to unlock it through playing the game. Sort of like what EA is doing here. Except you have to buy everything rather then choose specifically what you want.
the reason why the two situation are fundamentally different is that in the case of tf2 it is completely optional if you want to buy from the store because none of the items are clearly superior to the default set, not so with bf3 if you were to buy the game today and jumped straight into multiplayer your character would be at a clear disadvantage against those that have been playing for months.

In a way if you want to play the game and not be a liability for the rest of your team due to having low damage low accuracy weapons, no perks so you die quicker, or can't use vehicles effectively, then it almost seems like a mandatory purchase( and with a 40 dollar price tag that makes it a bit galling ).

I say most of this because I remember a similar situation with bad company 2 which I had purchased several months after release and seeing first hand how a newbie with no unlocks was very ineffectual to the match, hell I'd call it a good round if were to manage to get a kill on my own that didn't end up being an assist.
 

KyleXYZ

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distortedreality said:
I would think the main point of an FPS is to shoot shit.

Anything that makes that more fun is good for me.
The clarity...it's blinding...my eyes!
 

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well i think being shot to shits without all the cool awesome shit actually is a good motivator to be a better player. being creamed = motivation to unlock all the cool shit.
 

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Jitters Caffeine said:
I think if they lowered the price to $10 a class it'd be more acceptable, but $40 a kit is just outrageous.
It is $40 for everything, not just one kit.

OT: I am fine with this.
 

LiquidSolstice

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chadachada123 said:
I don't see a problem with this. The game isn't insanely unbalanced, and getting all of the unlocks for a class (or all of the classes, if you're a rich snob) isn't going to make a bad player into a good player.

Plus, look at it this way: Starting off a new class that you've never played before is kinda sucky when everyone is at the same level as you. Trying to do so when everyone else already has most things unlocked is annoying as hell. These shortcuts weren't added until just now, when new players would be getting frustrated because of their lack of equipment and stuff.

If they want to throw money at this, I say let them.
I wish I could give you a cookie of awesomeness. I only wish you were there for the comments section of the official Escapist news article on this...
 

surg3n

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The latest update kinda changes everyones weapon loadout, well, it actually resets it pretty much. I used to go with the G36 in support, but they increased the recoil and now the gun is pretty much redundant. Not getting the same kills, dying more, but it's OK - I think everyone was struggling a bit with their new loadouts.

What is cool though, is you can rent a server - planning to do that over a weekend just so I can experiment with the maps, find some good camp sites, base steal strategies etc. Ohh, and I might be able to practice my piloting in peace!

The best addition though, is that bloomin quit button inbetween games.
 

Tanakh

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tippy2k2 said:
But that's the thing...YOU think it's fun to go through that grind. Not everyone wants to spend the first twenty hours of their gaming getting their ass kicked because they don't have the toys necessary to fight back.

I stopped playing WoW a month into it because I didn't want to sink all the time and money to get to the "fun" part.
I stopped playing Final Fantasy XIII because I didn't want to sink all that time into getting to the "fun" part.
I totally agree here. Personally I juggle my gaming time between DotA 2 / SC 2 / BF 3 and the rest (some other PvP, some single player), so I hate to grind to be on equal footing, that was my main reason to quit WoW and to always avoid LoL like the plague.

It would certainly make me happier to see it cheaper, but on principle I LIKE MY PvP BALANCED, not some grinding BS.

Hazy992 said:
Besides I think they'd be more pissed off at playing against a new player with good equipment than having them on the team.
They will only complain about playing against a new player in good gear if they lose... in which case they sucked and need to L2P... seriously losing agianst a noobie in any "skill based" PvP is sad.
 

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crono738 said:
They did the same thing for Bad Company 2, although it wasn't nearly as expensive. As others have said on other forums, though, a crappy player will still be crappy, regardless of his gear.
To be fair, better gear in the game does confer an edge. The Famas is one of the best all-purpose assault rifles in the game. The 1014 becomes a lethal all purpose tool with simple optics and frag rounds. The Glock 18 is both an excellent last ditch weapon as well as a viable primary weapon when clearing close spaces. Sure, a bad player will still be bad but lets not pretend gear choices are democratic.

Of course, were it not for all my suffering in the use of weapons without optics I would not appreciate their value. Were it not for all those times I lost in close quarters to the G18, I wouldn't realize its potential. Were it not for the skinner box inherent to the unlock system, I probably wouldn't have played for as long as I did.

Honestly, if someone wants to blow 40 bucks cutting to the end, I say let them.
 

Craorach

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If I played BF3 regularly anymore I'd probably do it.

I don't play a whole lot, but I've never understood the whole unlock progression idea that FPS games are coming out with recently. Done right, and it doesn't give any major advantage.

Done wrong, and long term players will rip new players to shreds a few months in. Try flying a jet when you don't have any unlocks in BF3 at the moment.

This sort of thing should really be an option from the start.
 

Kathinka

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as long as it's just quick unlock, ok. not such a big deal since the weapons are balanced either way. the starting guns are among the most versatile and best you can get.

however, i don't like the direction this is going in. in another year or two they will sell a double health boost for 20$, or new, better guns than the default ones for 30$.
 

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Hazy992 said:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342589/battlefield-3-ultimate-shortcut-dlc-costs-pound2750-on-xbox-live/

I can't... I don't... What?! EA are now letting you unlock all weapons, vehicles etc instantly on Battlefield 3 for, get this; 3200 MS Points. Apart from this ruining the spirit of the game (I can understand this sort of thing on a game like LBP where the focus is on making stuff, but not on an FPS), I can't believe they have the cheek to charge so much; It's more than the damn game [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Arts-Battlefield-Xbox-360/dp/B005C2Y6OM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333503361&sr=8-1]. I know you don't have to buy this but... wow. Just wow.
It's not really against the spirit of the game, but the price of this unlock is ridiculously high. The unlock tree for that game is needlessly long. The game is balanced as far as weapons go, but some of the unlocks take forever. Why? If its' all preference then why are the unlocks tier'd?

If this unlock bundle was day 1 then I'd be calling foul play. It would have come across as if they made the game unlock tree needlessly long with the intent encouraging people to buy the $40 unlock pack. They didn't so it's fair play in my book. IT gives new players a chance to unlock some items and become more competitive. They are already disadvantaged because of a lack of experience.
 

Bostur

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If it's not imbalanced to unlock everything, why not give all players the option to do it for free? All the stuff has already been designed, there is no extra cost involved. I can't help to think it's an incredibly greedy way to nickel and dime paying customers.


This captcha really takes the piss:
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Escapist, I really really do not want advertising in my captcha's please. I appreciate that the new ones are easier to read, but please tell Solvemedia that this isn't cool at all.
 

malestrithe

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40 dollars for a new copy of the game plus an additional 40 dollars to unlock everything at the start of the game may seem like a bargain to some people, but not me. I have no real interest in the game.

Even if I did, I would not play the game so much that I would unlock everything in it.
 

LiquidSolstice

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Bostur said:
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Escapist, I really really do not want advertising in my captcha's please. I appreciate that the new ones are easier to read, but please tell Solvemedia that this isn't cool at all.
Yeah. I just put "really fucking annoying and obstrusive" for those captchas. Surely there must be some bell of irony ringing when the forum admin comes to the realization that to prevent people from spamming us with advertisements....


...they're spamming us with advertisements.