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Grey Day for Elcia

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Matthew94 said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Matthew94 said:
No need for you to act so immature. If you can't rebuke my points in a sensible manner then just stop posting.
^implying denying healthcare to the gravelly ill is sensible and mature.

Derp.
Like I said, if you cannot post in a sensible manner then don't bother at all.
I don't need to. You are trying so very hard to pretend to be above it all that you went ahead and did more to throw your argument out than anyone else ever could; you suggested denying people the healthcare they pay for. Now, I know you're young and the concept of paying for things is new to you, but yes, you do actually have to pay for healthcare or you aren't entitled to it.
 

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Hitler and his boys would've LOVED the 300.
First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.
 
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Grey Day for Elcia said:
That's just pathetic, really fucking low. Age has fuck all to do with how right you are. Now I'm sorry "life kicked you in the teeth" but that doesn't make you right. The ironic thing is that you're astoundingly immature and incapable of arguing without falling back on personal insults like a child. I bet your harsh and unfulfilled life has made you incredibly wise though.

OT: That a communist state is possible. Every time a thread pops up about communism someone eventually says "Yeah, it would be nice but it just isn't possible." It is very easy to corrupt it, all totalitarian states are, but that doesn't mean they're going to fuck up communism. On top of this, saying that it hasn't worked in the past doesn't mean it can't work. It's had, what, 50 years of to stake it's claim as an effective modern government? That is no where near enough time, not to mention that they were hardly in a position to try out a new government and were usually thrown into war.
 

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Matthew94 said:
So why should the vegetables be entitled to it if they never paid for it? They will never, ever be able to work so by your logic they should never get healthcare, it seems like you inadvertently agreed with me.
Because they are covered under their parents healthcare (just like you are).

So, if you get hit by a car or something, you shouldn't get any healthcare, yeah? I mean, "Why should [you] be entitled to it if [you] never paid for it?"

Do you not understand how the healthcare and tax systems works? I can help you, if you'd like. I enjoy showing people stuff and helping others learn. Give me a shout and I'll hook you up.
 

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*snipped*
I never said a God made the universe, I just said it is unlikely that the universe just is. Plus if there is some sort of deity, it doesn't necessarily have to be all powerful/knowing/seeing.
 

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AnarchistFish said:
Haseo21 said:
Oh snap, I just remembered another one. A lot of people are gonna get mad after I say this.
Ahem...I think dubstep sucks.
Now would this be wubwubwub electro house fake-"dubstep"?
Or real dubstep which uses 2-step drum rhythms?

Because if it's the latter, we have a problem ;)
Anyway this is precisely the reason I hate the misconceptions that have risen around the term "dubstep".
Anything remotely close to Skrillex, Deadmau5, and Blackleg is what I hate. I listened to dubstep, I disliked it, but what got me to hate it was when I'm listening to my Nightcore/Trance albums and someone says "Hurr durr, I like dubstep too." It happened on several occasions.
 

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
Ignatz_Zwakh said:
Hitler and his boys would've LOVED the 300.
First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.
If you want it spelled out then he is saying they would have loved the idea of it.
 

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Haseo21 said:
AnarchistFish said:
Haseo21 said:
Oh snap, I just remembered another one. A lot of people are gonna get mad after I say this.
Ahem...I think dubstep sucks.
Now would this be wubwubwub electro house fake-"dubstep"?
Or real dubstep which uses 2-step drum rhythms?

Because if it's the latter, we have a problem ;)
Anyway this is precisely the reason I hate the misconceptions that have risen around the term "dubstep".
Anything remotely close to Skrillex, Deadmau5, and Blackleg is what I hate. I listened to dubstep, I disliked it, but what got me to hate it was when I'm listening to my Nightcore/Trance albums and someone says "Hurr durr, I like dubstep too." It happened on several occasions.
Skrillex and Deadmau5 are not dubstep.
 

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Eddie the head said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Ignatz_Zwakh said:
Hitler and his boys would've LOVED the 300.
First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.
If you want it spelled out then he is saying they would have loved the idea of it.
He would have loved the idea of an (in his eyes) inferior race fighting another (in his eyes) inferior race? I don't think you understand what the Nazi Party and Hitler were trying to do.
 
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Grey Day for Elcia said:
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
That's just pathetic, really fucking low.
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
you're astoundingly immature and incapable of arguing without falling back on personal insults
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I bet your harsh and unfulfilled life has made you incredibly wise though.
The irony is strong in that post.
My intention was to insult, not argue. Well done on picking up on what was said, your analytical skills truly are something to marvel.
 

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You don't really have the right to opinion, you have the privilige. I think we should all just be entitled to an INFORMED opinion.

Let's see... What else?

Atheist, though that's fairly common just around here. Mainly antitheist too.

Semi-vegetarian, and I'm for lab-grown meat, as long as nothing gets hurt, so we can scale down agriculture and overfishing. Yeah, hypocritical, I know.

Socialist, since that seems to be most effective in ensuring as many people as happy as possible.

Anti-drugs which includes alcohol in my opinion, it should be banned, but I'm grumbling since that doesn't seem to be an option due to black markets. I'll just be very anti-alcohol culture.

No islam isn't more anti-women than most major religions, but it's depicted as such due to the few wackoes that make any noise.

We might feel overpopulated, but it's actually sustainable if we're sensible. We're not though.

I'm pro-choice, and the only way to be pro-life is to be pro-choice. Otherwise you're merely anti-choice.

I don't mind anyone's sexuality - as long as no one who doesn't want to be gets hurt, it's all fine with me.

We're all idiots. Including me.

I think that's it for now. Oh, I don't like most sports either, but like electronica music, and don't like pop-tarts.

And physics is cool. Just fuckin' awesome.
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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MysticToast said:
Haseo21 said:
AnarchistFish said:
Haseo21 said:
Oh snap, I just remembered another one. A lot of people are gonna get mad after I say this.
Ahem...I think dubstep sucks.
Now would this be wubwubwub electro house fake-"dubstep"?
Or real dubstep which uses 2-step drum rhythms?

Because if it's the latter, we have a problem ;)
Anyway this is precisely the reason I hate the misconceptions that have risen around the term "dubstep".
Anything remotely close to Skrillex, Deadmau5, and Blackleg is what I hate. I listened to dubstep, I disliked it, but what got me to hate it was when I'm listening to my Nightcore/Trance albums and someone says "Hurr durr, I like dubstep too." It happened on several occasions.
Skrillex and Deadmau5 are not dubstep.
Someone called their band (and I use the term ever so loosely) "Deadmau5"? Oh man, that sums up the quality of the artistic vision right there, lol.
 

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They would'nt have given
Grey Day for Elcia said:
Ignatz_Zwakh said:
Hitler and his boys would've LOVED the 300.
First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.
That wouldn't matter in the context. If the 300 came out as a film in Nazi Germany, Hitler would've adored it. Would've deemed it required viewing. Any film that portrays one entire race of people as monsters and promotes giving your life against them as-I don't even know why I'm arguing this! THIS JUST PROVES THIS IS AN UNPOPULAR OPINION! FUCK!
*Ahem*
You're entitled to whatever you wanna bloody think, but I still stand firm on this. You ever wanna provoke a nation into intense patriotic rage and hatred of another race, pen something like the 300 that's written bloody well and find some way to stick it into the hearts of the men and women of your nation. Then you'll have a country full of "patriots" waiting to give their lives for you against the supposedly common threat.
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Grey Day for Elcia said:
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
That's just pathetic, really fucking low.
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
you're astoundingly immature and incapable of arguing without falling back on personal insults
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
I bet your harsh and unfulfilled life has made you incredibly wise though.
The irony is strong in that post.
My intention was to insult, not argue. Well done on picking up on what was said, your analytical skills truly are something to marvel.
But wouldn't that mean, in your own mind and with your own logic, you are "immature," "pathetic" and "childish"? If you are one for logical consistency, that is. I think that's a bit harsh. I might disagree with you, but calling yourself any of the above is a tad extreme.
 

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orangeban said:
Rowan93 said:
Xangba said:
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I don't just disapprove of religious people, I think Deists are silly too. Also, agnostics are really annoying.

No belief deserves any respect, except perhaps the respect it earns. Respect can be earned by being right.
I see you fail to mention atheists, the ones who think that they are the only ones with higher cognitive functions. Agnostic at least acknowledges that NO ONE has any proof whatsoever of anything, so we should all shut up about it.
Well, obviously I didn't mention atheists, because the atheists are right. That's my point. Religious people are wrong, deists are wrong, agnostics are in a funny ying-yang state of rightwrong which makes them annoying, and all of that is because atheistm is correct.

The belief in a creator god violates occam's razor, and when you get right down to it, is just patently silly.

Well, actually, being silly is just another way of saying something violates occam's razor, but I think it carries more weight, and gets the point across better for what "violates occam's razor" actually means. The idea of god is silly, and agnostics consider the belief in a creator god to be worth considering, but not worth trying to analyse, or even decide whether they think one exists or not, which makes them in many ways worse than ordinary theists.
I don't understand your point about agnosticism. Agnosticism is saying that you don't know if there is a God or not, because there is no proof either way. It's not a belief, in fact I'd call it the most rational of the bunch. We don't say that it's not worth trying to analyse the belief (I say we, but I can obviously only talk for myself, sorry other agnostics!), we just think that it is impossible to prove that God does/doesn't exist.

Agnostics believe the idea of God is worth considering because, well, the nature of our universe is something that is worth considering, surely?

Think about it, if God doesn't obey the laws of our universe, then we cannot disprove em using said laws, because God is above those laws.

ALSO: I'm agnostic, but I still don't worship any Gods, mainly because I don't think we should worship a dictator
We can't prove whether a god exists or not, but there are a lot of things we can't "prove" to similarly stringent criteria. I'm about as sure that god exists as I'm sure that Belgium is a real place. I've never been to Belgium and I don't know anyone who has.

Okay, no, bad example because of the evidence thing. I'm about as sure god doesn't exist as I'm sure that Oz, as in "The Wizard Of Oz", isn't a real place. I can't prove it, but if someone says they believe Oz is a real place, or says that they don't know whether or not Oz is a real place and that we can't know for sure, my opinion of them drops quite a bit. That's what theism is like to me.

God might be able to ignore the laws of physics, but that makes the god hypothesis significantly less worthy, because it means it violates occam's razor more. The god hypothesis is an idea in people's heads and is bound to the rules of logic like all the other ideas a human might come up with and get wrong.