Unreliable source's crackhead Universal Theory of Bioware will blow your mind.

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Spectrum_Prez

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A user at a different forum I regularly frequent just posted the following explanation of how Dragon Age: Origins actually takes place in the Mass Effect universe. He claims he got the story from David Gaider (a Bioware writer) at a Gamestop meet and greet. While wildly fantastical and highly unlikely for the simple reason that Gaider's pants would have been sued off by Bioware for giving the plot away, the story is just so mind-blowingly awesome I felt it was my duty to share it with you guys. Enjoy:

A long time ago an Asari dreadnought was brought down by an anomaly over Thedas. The sizable crew and the Asari commando units aboard settled onto the planet and mingled with the natives, teaching them to make use of the abundant Element Zero (called 'lyrium' on this world) to manifest potent biotics or magic.

These humans that benefitted first from the tutelage of the Asari became the Tevinter Imperium. In time, they became powerful in their own right. They constructed wonders that Thedas had never seen before, technology fueled by biotics (using element zero/lyrium) or technology that functioned of biological energy (blood magic). The dwindling Asari population, still hoping to some day return to the stars by contacted other Asari, helped the Tevinter construct a beacon that would broadcast a powerful distress signal.

This distress signal did eventually attract the attention of the Council races. The Council saw what the crashed colony of Asari had done to this world called Thedas, and how much they had changed it, and decided that the proper thing to do was to purge the planet of all extraterrestrial influence.

They sent one of their best to take care of this, a Spectre named Andraste. The Asari on Thedas became wise to the Council's plan and used their crude resources to destroy Andraste's ship on arrival. But Andraste was a Spectre, and they are nothing if not resourceful. Recognizing she did not have the capabilities to directly confront the Asari and their Tevinter protectors, Andraste assimilated into the population and used her knowledge to manipulate other races and peoples of Thedas into march against Tevinter.

In the final confrontation, Andraste was, in fact, severely wounded by a Tevinter archon. However, she did not die and ascend to join the Maker as his bride. In actuality, she was extracted from the combat zone by a friendly Council ship.

At this same time, both Andraste and the Asari had failed to notice that the beacon had also attracted the attention of the Geth. The Geth, for uncertain purposes, perhaps to claim the wreckage of the Asari capital ship for their own, endeavored to take control of Thedas. Initially, they did deploy geth troopers, but the native populace, even the weakend Tevinter, proved resilient.

Ultimately, the Geth instead introduced a techno-organic retrovirus akin to the kind used to create Husks. This virus would spread by contact and convert native species to Geth forces, connected by a hive mind similar to the Geth collective mind itself. It turned the native dwarves into genlocks, humans to hurlocks, qunari to ogres, and elves to shrieks, by 'tainting' them and integrating synthetic systems into their organic ones.

The hiveminds for this retrovirus were inevitably centered around nodes or clusters of more powerful AIs that became known as archdemons. The retrovirus could be more effectively produced in so-called Broodmothers.

The first Grey Wardens mastered a 'ritual' that was, in essence, producing a vaccinated 'dead' version of the techno-organic retrovirus by treating it using biotics. Using this vaccine, they could integrate some bit of the synthetic systems into their bodies, and use it to tap into or 'listen' in on Geth communication frequencies.

But more importantly they discovered that the Archdemon AI clusters, when nearing destruction, would begin to transmit all their data and programming into the nearest synthetic. A Grey Warden could disrupt this failsafe by intercepting the data and then destroying it internally.

Of course, most of these facts have been lost through the ages, and the actual truth has become shrouded in myth and legend and stories.

It's all true, I asked David Gaider during a Gamespot Fan Q&A session!

Andraste's ashes are actually dried-up medi-gel.

The next DLC will be an adventure into buried Prothean ruins.

The tentative title for Dragon Age 2 is Dragon Age: Fulcrum. It will explore more deeply into the nature of the (interdimensional) Fade and will chronicle the events leading up to the Darkspawn overmind's fateful contact with and takeover of the greater Geth neural network that sets the stage for Mass Effect 3.

It'll probably turn out to be a copy-paste job from somebody's fanfic, but its too good to let it go to waste.

EDIT: If it was actually Gaider that made this up on the spot, it explains why he has a job writing game scripts and the rest of us don't.
 

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Decent, but the problem I find with it is that Biotics need Amps installed in their Central Nervous Systems to use biotics even remotely effectively, so that part doesn't really work.
 

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orannis62 said:
Decent, but the problem I find with it is that Biotics need Amps installed in their Central Nervous Systems to use biotics even remotely effectively, so that part doesn't really work.
It also doesn't explain the Fade, but who knows what untreated Eezo exposure causes you to hallucinate?
 

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Ha! While I don't expect BioWare to actually tie Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect together like that I do find the idea amusing.

I'd really enjoy seeing more Sci-Fi/Fantasy hybrid games that aren't JRPGs, like take Shadowrun, turn down the soul-crushing hopelessness of it a couple notches, and then put it in space.

That would be pretty damn cool.
 

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Wow...surprisingly well thought out. Still, seems unlikely, if only because a lot of people would dislike the genre-crossing....
 

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Sounds interesting, but is most likely false.
The Geth didn't have the technology to make Husks, that was granted by the reapers, which they didn't join until long after humans had gained access to space. Even if they did have some form of Husk-like creating virus, why wouldn't they use it during their attempt at assisting the reapers?
That's one possible problem, I shall let the rest of the Escapist poke holes.
 

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ToonLink said:
TLDR. Can you just give me the abridged version?
That seemed like an abridged version to me. Only takes a few minutes to read anyhow.

OT: It's an interesting read, but out of all the this-thing-is-actually-this-thing style articles that I've read, this actually seems the most unlikely. I mean, in a universe where things like The Fade and this kind of magic takes place, the future wouldn't be as "dull" and sterile as it is in Mass Effect. And there is a great lack of diversity in bionic powers. If humans could develop all of the powers in the mage tree just like that, then surely the space faring races who have used biotics for millenia would have come up with more varied and interesting biotic powers. For instance, where are the fireballs and lightning bolts?
 

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Spectrum_Prez said:
orannis62 said:
Decent, but the problem I find with it is that Biotics need Amps installed in their Central Nervous Systems to use biotics even remotely effectively, so that part doesn't really work.
It also doesn't explain the Fade, but who knows what untreated Eezo exposure causes you to hallucinate?
No, eezo doesn't cause hallucination, but it had been known to cause cancer, if that helps.
 

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It seems a lot like the original Warhammer/Warhammer 40k universe, just a bit lighter.
 

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Who cares about continuity! That rocks.

I like the idea of dropping the Normandy on some planet in Mass Effect 3 and it linking in to your Dragon Age 2 save and coming across your own character, and there being a disruption to the time space-time continuum caused by meeting yourself. Sure if Gears characters can turn up in Lost Planet 2, then why not? And who doesn't love a good crossover?
 

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Not going to bother pointing out plot holes in this one...just know that there are many of them. All I will say is this: You had me at "a spectre named Andraste"
 

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Even though I think its fake, I sure hope this isn't true.

Still, it would be interesting.
 

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Sounds interesting, but is most likely false.
The Geth didn't have the technology to make Husks, that was granted by the reapers, which they didn't join until long after humans had gained access to space. Even if they did have some form of Husk-like creating virus, why wouldn't they use it during their attempt at assisting the reapers?
That's one possible problem, I shall let the rest of the Escapist poke holes.
Did you ever read Anne Mcaffery's Dragonriders of Pern? It's a lot like that.

Slightly more on topic: I can't really think of anything to say about the explanation, so I'll reprint what I said as I read it:

"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF..." And so on. If this proves to be true, I will one day finish that swear. I'd just like to add my opinion, and for what it's worth: I think I'd love it if that turend out to be true.

And while we're on the subject of Bioware crossovers, I'd like to present my homebrew ending to ME3:

Shepard defeats the reapers using the words of powers looted from the sword coast after contacting Morrigan's lovechild and using his biotics to turn a Mass Effect relay into a weaponized Eezo beam; and as the last reaper falls, it cuts to a galaxy out in the ass-end of nowhere and focuses on the ruins of Malachor IV, where Darth Nihlus's reaper (!) is slowly sparking to life.
 
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Well, that would be pretty entertaining.

It would be interesting to say the least, a crossover like this would ciertantly blow my mind.

Provided it was done well.
 

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Veret said:
Not going to bother pointing out plot holes in this one...just know that there are many of them. All I will say is this: You had me at "a spectre named Andraste"
Yeah, that's pretty much what hooked me too. It's like somebody flipped the entire world inside out. As you noted, the plot holes would be huge, but the basic structure of the connection seems so plausible, if only for a second.
 

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I think the problem is people are over thinking this, it is entertaining is all! We end up sounding like people at a Star Trek convention, lol!
 

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Why would the Asari population be dwindling? They can live hundreds - if not thousands - of years and can breed with pretty much anyone they want.

If anything, the Asari population should be increasing.

S'all poopie. I've read fanfics which make more sense than this.

Initially, they did deploy geth troopers, but the native populace, even the weakend Tevinter, proved resilient.
They proved resilient to super-propelled slugs of metal?