Upskirt Danger Caused Sex Change in Ico's The Last Guardian

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GrizzlerBorno

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Isn't the little boy wearing a toga? aren't they worried people will look up HIS skirt? and if so, back to square one, then!
 

Brotherofwill

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I'm glad he changed it to a boy. I don't mind a girl as a protagonist, but the whole story fits much more nicely around a boy and his beast. I mean, that's a pretty old theme that goes way back with books like The Neverending story and fables and all that. The Pokemon creator said it best. Boys around that age are all about adventure, exploring the world and animals.

Then again, I don't think it really would have mattered. If you look at Spirited Away, Ghibly was able to completely nail a story that would have been traditionally more associated with a young male lead. Yeah, the gender wouldn't have mattered, aslong as it wasn't a huge shiny warrior riding that Griffon.

Can't wait for the game :D.

Greg Tito said:
Of course, it begs the question as to why a Japanese developer making games for a Japanese-centric console would be so worried about upskirt shots, but I suppose Ueda has the international market to consider.
...or maybe because she would have been an underage girl and Ueda isn't sick.
Greg Tito said:
Also, how about just putting the lady in pants? Seems like a much easier fix than scrapping the female character altogether.
Yeah, good point.
 

nekoali

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That sound you hear is my head repeatedly striking my desk over the huge amounts of sexism depicted by Fumito Ueda. First he wants a weak hero to counterbalance the strength of the creature in the game. So naturally he things of a girl. Because you know. Women are all weak, soft creatures who can never on their own be strong, independent and kick butt on their own. y'know, despite all the strong, female, independent kick butt characters in games, media and real life.

And naturally, if we have a girl character, she'll wear a skirt. Because all girls wear skirts, always. You'll never see a girl wearing pants while clinging to a monster or fighting. Besides, boys have a stronger grip.

Dear Mister Ueda. Kindly pull your head out of your ass and join us in the 21st century, where women are equals and wear pants. Thanks.
 

Dorkmaster Flek

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I'm disappointed they didn't just put her in pants. Games need more female protagonists. I'm sure the game will be great regardless, but it would have been a nice change of pace to have a young girl as a lead character.
 

Covarr

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Women in Japan don't generally wear pants, and little girls especially don't. It's not a matter of chauvinism or anything, it's simply the way their culture is. It wouldn't even think to most Japanese people to question is, in their minds it's no different from men not wearing skirts.

See, this is a culture that understands something that the US frequently seems to miss: it's okay for genders to be DIFFERENT, and that doesn't automatically make them unequal in some way.

P.S. Thanks
 

Keava

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It's really weird considering all the asian MMOs always include a young looking girls in sailor skirts with full upskirts whenever you cast a spell (and don't even mention Lineage 2 dwarf girls...)
 

Nalgas D. Lemur

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Azaraxzealot said:
well what do you expect from Japan? the same country that mass-markets games like Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball?

or the same country that developed jiggle physics?
For some reason I suddenly want House of th-...no, Typing of the Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball. No pants necessary for that one. And as a result, I have the PvZ song stuck in my head with alternate lyrics: "There are zombies in my pr0n; we don't zombies in our pr0n!"

...I'll get me coat.
 

fanklok

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PipBoy2000 said:
women in japan dont wear pants or something?
Of course not physical sexual harassment would be far too difficult if they did.

Not really, I;m going to go ahead and agree with that one guy who said the cultural difference thing.
 
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And why couldn't she wear trousers? Even in ye olden times girls sometime wore breeches.

This is just sexist. It makes no sense to have the protagonist as a girl just because you think that she must wear a skirt.
 

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Ok I agree that changing the girl's clothes would've solved the problem (A longer skirt that blocked the camera would be a better solution then pants) I see why they changed it to a boy. I mean it would be pretty hard to take the game seriously if you spent most of your time looking up a little girl's skirt.

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Covarr said:
Women in Japan don't generally wear pants, and little girls especially don't. It's not a matter of chauvinism or anything, it's simply the way their culture is. It wouldn't even think to most Japanese people to question is, in their minds it's no different from men not wearing skirts.

See, this is a culture that understands something that the US frequently seems to miss: it's okay for genders to be DIFFERENT, and that doesn't automatically make them unequal in some way.

P.S. Thanks
thank you for the insight.
 

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Greg Tito said:
Of course, it begs the question as to why a Japanese developer making games for a Japanese-centric console would be so worried about upskirt shots, but I suppose Ueda has the international market to consider.
What?
Exactly what part of the international market doesn't like up-skirt shots?

I'm sorry Ueda but you just lost a sail