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The filth is fighting and it’s beautiful! Wooooo! Let’s GO!
 

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Will it matters? Its so obvious that Trump is all over the Epstein file that the only people who don't believe it will never believe it no mater, he could rape their kid right in front of them and they'd deny it to their dying breath.
 

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The filth is fighting and it’s beautiful! Wooooo! Let’s GO!
Yeah, don't get too excited for it. Like I said in the other thread, this is one giant distraction away from the Palantir thing. Both these clowns' MO is to pop off a bunch of dumb crap on social media, when something bigger is going on to which they don't want media attention.
 
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Problem with Musk calling Trump a pedofile and friend of Epstein is that this was open knowledge. We all knew this during the election, and so did he. Musk was fine with that until he and Trump had a falling out. Musk is fine with pedofilic billionaires and given what a complete freak he is I'd not be surprised to hear news he partakes in it.

He wins nothing with this statement, especially because Trump's base will excuse anything Trump ever did with Epstein no matter how vile it would be.

Yeah, don't get too excited for it. Like I said in the other thread, this is one giant distraction away from the Palantir thing. Both these clowns' MO is to pop off a bunch of dumb crap on social media, when something bigger is going on to which they don't want media attention.
I'm not sure either are disciplined enough for that. They're such a bunch of mentally ill freaks that them blowing up on each other over real and imagined slights is just as likely as it being some plot. Though for what its worth their puppetmasters might indeed egg this behavior on to distract from their own conduct.
 

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Will it matters? Its so obvious that Trump is all over the Epstein file that the only people who don't believe it will never believe it no mater, he could rape their kid right in front of them and they'd deny it to their dying breath.
Or they'd even thank Trump for the ''honor', or blame their child for ''seducing'' him. If they haven't seen the light now they never will. But that goes beyond just Trump's deranged cult. The american electorate as a whole should have rejected Trump over this long ago but they(even the moderates) maliciously refused to do it. Just as they refused to do it after the coup, or after he refused to do his duty during covid. He should never have been a viable candidate after his first disaster term but he was. And for that the blame must lie beyond just his deranged cult.
 

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Musk is fine with pedofilic billionaires and given what a complete freak he is I'd not be surprised to hear news he partakes in it.
We already know he has a breeding kink and taste for women twenty years younger than he is. So that would be pretty much exactly in the wheelhouse.

I'm not sure either are disciplined enough for that.
They both have a sociopathic manchild's sense of self preservation. Lashing out at each other in the face of an oncoming major political scandal is what you'd expect.

Though for what its worth their puppetmasters might indeed egg this behavior on to distract from their own conduct.
That's why I pointed out Vance, Thiel, and the Palantir thing in the other thread. It's to both Musk's and Thiel's financial, personal, and political benefit if Trump were to go away and be replaced by Vance. Vance is organizationally competent, and understands the value of shutting the fuck up when you're doing the dirty, and will have none of the media scrutiny Trump faces.
 

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Vance is organizationally competent, and understands the value of shutting the fuck up when you're doing the dirty.
And just as importantly he hates Europe and wants to deprive us of consumer protection and the welfare state on the behalf of those aforementioned freaks.
 

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And just as importantly he hates Europe and wants to deprive us of consumer protection and the welfare state on the behalf of those aforementioned freaks.
I don't think Europe has much if anything to do with it. Vance is all-in on that Curtis Yarvin "we need to rid ourselves of the modern nation-state and have incorporated private city-states" quasi-cyberpunk nonsense.
 

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I don't think Europe has much if anything to do with it. Vance is all-in on that Curtis Yarvin "we need to rid ourselves of the modern nation-state and have incorporated private city-states" quasi-cyberpunk nonsense.
Vance seems to think it does since he's been intensely vocal in his hatred of us, and us actually regulating people like Tiel(however mildly) is likely the source of this hatred.
 

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Vance seems to think it does since he's been intensely vocal in his hatred of us, and us actually regulating people like Tiel(however mildly) is likely the source of this hatred.
Well, there's the rub. Is the EU catching strays as exemplary of the "problem" due to his generalized technofascist leanings, or is he just throwing heaps of red meat to the neofascist morons who voted for Trump and him?
 

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Problem with Musk calling Trump a pedofile and friend of Epstein is that this was open knowledge.
Well, we all know that Trump socialised with Epstein. However, for all Trump's many, many sins, there is no significant evidence that he consorts with minors.

Indeed, Trump said: "I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for 15 years. Terrific guy, He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." The way he phrases Epstein's interest in younger females suggests that this is a difference between the two of them. And indeed, I think Trump is more a porn model/actress kind of guy.

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At the same time it's very funny to see the fallout of the inevitable point where the natural repulsion of two colossal narcissist egos finally overcame the forces that temoprarily held them together, there's something about it I also find depressing. The US presidency is the highest office in the planet. Is this sort of chaotic soap opera the best our species can do? Is this our natural way of being? If so, maybe we should go extinct.
 

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Well, we all know that Trump socialised with Epstein. However, for all Trump's many, many sins, there is no significant evidence that he consorts with minors.

Indeed, Trump said: "I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for 15 years. Terrific guy, He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." The way he phrases Epstein's interest in younger females suggests that this is a difference between the two of them. And indeed, I think Trump is more a porn model/actress kind of guy.

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At the same time it's very funny to see the fallout of the inevitable point where the natural repulsion of two colossal narcissist egos finally overcame the forces that temoprarily held them together, there's something about it I also find depressing. The US presidency is the highest office in the planet. Is this sort of chaotic soap opera the best our species can do? Is this our natural way of being? If so, maybe we should go extinct.
Pope was the highest office on the planet for a good deal of history and look at some of the bullshit that came out of that. Can we do better? Yes. And the first step to get there is not to give offices, titles and positions any more respect than they reserve.