The Sun is there. The Sun is also not real news. You don't read National Enquire or Fox News for news. Move along, citizen.
"I am going to bang your sister with my 25cm battle hardened cannon. It will be nice explosion!"Treblaine said:You joke about killing my family you can bet you aren't going to be invited to my house... especially if of recent someone in my family has been murdered and there are people out there still seeking to attack us.
I can see the same principal applying with any country.
Hey, I LIVE in this country and that turn of phrase does not follow.MetalMagpie said:Mr.PlanetEater said:Frankly if you make a terrorist joke about destroying the U.S. or any country for that matter you probably deserve to be barred from entering said country. Similar to making a Holocaust joke when you're about to enter Germany or Israel. :/
That said if they had mentioned destroying the south specifically no one would give two shits...and in fact they'd probably supply them...not that I know anything about that.. >.> <.<He wasn't making a terrorist joke. Or even a threat.Treblaine said:You joke about killing my family you can bet you aren't going to be invited to my house... especially if of recent someone in my family has been murdered and there are people out there still seeking to attack us.
I can see the same principal applying with any country.
In this country, saying you're going to "go out and destroy [insert name of location]" means to go out and get staggeringly drunk there. Much like "paint the town red".
It can be seen as quite a laddish (or even aggressive) phrase, much like "I'd rag that 'til it bled" (which means "I'd be very happy to have sex with that woman" - in case you don't have that one either). But it isn't intended to be malicious and it certainly isn't intended to be taken as a serious threat!
And they would then point to the widely known threats against america from the various despotic regimes using the same "destroy america" term, it's quite clear their "joke" had a well intended double meaning. And of course their stated intent of desecrating celebrity graves doesn't so much fit the definition of "joke" more a bizarre hollow threat of an actual crime. Indicating to commit crimes - whether in jest or totally serious - is a sure fire way to get your entry visa voided to ANY COUNTRY.Arkaniack said:"I am going to bang your sister with my 25cm battle hardened cannon. It will be nice explosion!"Treblaine said:You joke about killing my family you can bet you aren't going to be invited to my house... especially if of recent someone in my family has been murdered and there are people out there still seeking to attack us.
I can see the same principal applying with any country.
Sounds like death threat?
If I was one that was barred from the USA over that joke, I would find any hollywood movie where they use "destroy" instead "get drunk" or whatever and sue them for misinforming me about american culture ( that would loose, yet it would be so fun....)
Do you live in London? If so, I'm surprised you haven't heard it. Maybe you hang out with a more civilised crowd than me.Treblaine said:Hey, I LIVE in this country and that turn of phrase does not follow.
ANYTHING other than The Daily Mail. They just spout fascist bullshit 24/7.4RM3D said:EDIT 1: I am not familiar with UK news sites. So, I don't know which are 'respectable'. But it seems, from the posts here, The Sun has a bad reputation. Well, let me link a few more news sites then...
I have heard the word "destroy" used vaguely in that way that borderline-illiterate idiots like that seem to be able to use ANY active verb as a synonym for getting drunk, but even then it is used in self referential way as in:MetalMagpie said:Do you live in London? If so, I'm surprised you haven't heard it. Maybe you hang out with a more civilised crowd than me.Treblaine said:Hey, I LIVE in this country and that turn of phrase does not follow.
Anyway, this discussion is getting far too serious for a silly piece of non-news. If the USA was going to bar every Brit who made a terrorist joke or a flippant comment, most of our comedians would be on the list!
Yeah, enforcing their borders in their own jurisdictions, imagine what it would be like if every country did that. What does the United States think it is... some sort of nation or country in its own right? Pah. [/sarc]henritje said:America trying to take over the world and playing World Police.