Well with the hammer and sickle im assuming that you're suggesting America is becoming a Communist State? What does Communism have to do with this? A Police State or some kind of Totalitarian State sure but its ignorant to suggest that restricting the freedom of information is any way related to or part of Communist ideology.JesterRaiin said:Go on please...Ilikemilkshake said:I dont think that flag means what you think it means.JesterRaiin said:That <link=http://www.rights.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sickle1.jpg>this was funny. WAS. Now it's very close to reality.Christopher Dudgeon said:Thoughts?
I'm open to possibilities.
My uncle can't go to the US because he was a member of a rather harmless communist/socialist organisation in the UK as a teenager (in the 1960s). The US being paranoid about anti-state activity is nothing new.Christopher Dudgeon said:And most pernicious of all, they don't actually define what they mean by advocating treason or insurrection, any more than they define what "immoral" means, it's whatever they decide it means, so you could be breaking the law without knowing you're doing it, until they decide you're doing it.
Thoughts?
Symbols rarely mean one thing only, my fellow Escapist.Ilikemilkshake said:Well with the hammer and sickle im assuming that you're suggesting America is becoming a Communist State? What does Communism have to do with this? A Police State or some kind of Totalitarian State sure but its ignorant to suggest that restricting the freedom of information is any way related to or part of Communist ideology.JesterRaiin said:Go on please...Ilikemilkshake said:I dont think that flag means what you think it means.JesterRaiin said:That <link=http://www.rights.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sickle1.jpg>this was funny. WAS. Now it's very close to reality.Christopher Dudgeon said:Thoughts?
I'm open to possibilities.
True but its bloody annoying whenever someone cries Communist or Socialist when they dont like or understand any random thing (not saying that about you just in general)JesterRaiin said:Symbols rarely mean one thing only, my fellow Escapist.Ilikemilkshake said:Well with the hammer and sickle im assuming that you're suggesting America is becoming a Communist State? What does Communism have to do with this? A Police State or some kind of Totalitarian State sure but its ignorant to suggest that restricting the freedom of information is any way related to or part of Communist ideology.JesterRaiin said:Go on please...Ilikemilkshake said:I dont think that flag means what you think it means.JesterRaiin said:That <link=http://www.rights.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sickle1.jpg>this was funny. WAS. Now it's very close to reality.Christopher Dudgeon said:Thoughts?
I'm open to possibilities.
No problem.Ilikemilkshake said:True but its bloody annoying whenever someone cries Communist or Socialist when they dont like or understand any random thing (not saying that about you just in general)JesterRaiin said:Symbols rarely mean one thing only, my fellow Escapist.
They've been doing it for 20ish years.Redlin5 said:Canadian customs, so help me god if you start doing something similar...
A little off topic, but if you don't mind me asking, do you fell that Irish Catholics in England are treated with a little more tolerance than ethnically English people, given England's history with Ireland and Irish Catholics? How do you think the UK government would respond if a Pakistani Muslim community/religious leader was on tv/radio and did something like try to justify what happened to the Irish people during Bloody Sunday? Would the government respond in the same way that they would if it was a English Protestant community/religious leader tried to justify a past act of violence that England committed against Desi people?Thyunda said:As an English-born part of an Irish Catholic family, I'd just like to say that our government is ridiculously discriminatory. Muslims are perfectly permitted to push for Sharia law and demand that women get stripped of their rights, but until they actually physically harm somebody, the law won't do anything.Volf99 said:snip
One white Londoner complains about black people in London (Anybody who knows the first thing about London knows that it's dominated by violent gangs of black kids) and she's hauled off to prison with her kid snatched from her arms.
..um did you read what I typed? Most of what I typed wasn't in favor of the UK government, the last part I included where I typed that the UK wasn't a terrible place, was my poor attempt to end my comment with a reassurance that I wasn't the stereotypical overly patriotic American who thought that my country was better than everybody else. I was just trying(and apparently I failed) to be humble at the end and let Abandon4093 know that I don't hate the UK.Thyunda said:So no. I won't accept that our Government isn't terrible, when they're more determined to defend a gang of angry Muslims than they are a British-born, justifiably racist woman.
I know Wikipedia isn't always reliable but I can't find anything to do with Mr.Livingstone and his take on rape laws. The things I did find on him on Wikipedia, (you might disagree) he seems to have a history of drawing negative attention to himself, so I don't know if you want to defend this guy.Thyunda said:Oh. And y'know what else? Every time a politician says something that makes a tiny bit of sense, the fucking Liberal Democrats start running their mouths, and then the poor sod gets disowned by his own party.
I'm referring to Ken Livingstone, and his push for different rape sentences - i.e. Intoxicated sex should get a far shorter sentence than violent rape. This was met by the anti-Ken 'Rape is rape' campaign.
Interesting, was this during Prime Minister Questions?Thyunda said:Our Governments are so ridiculously bad, they don't even TRY to look like they're trying to do some good. Hell, when Scotland had a referendum to consider independence, David Cameron and Ed Miliband started crying and saying "You don't have the legal power to do this!!!!"
Scotland, being Scotland, repeated their actions during the Lockerbie bomber debacle and replied "Fuck off."
whoa whoa whoa.Thyunda said:a British-born, justifiably racist woman.
1. Honestly? I've never noticed the difference. People in this country don't seem as bothered, but then my father always insisted he moved to England from Scotland because the Scottish were a lot less tolerant of the Irish Catholics.Volf99 said:snip
Justifiable racism and a justifiably racist person are two different things. One means it's okay to hate another person based specifically on their race, which is wrong, and the other is saying that you can understand why that person might be a little bit racist...such as when the influx of a certain race has managed to destabilise the entire city, and it's still suffering from the after-effects.GrandmaFunk said:whoa whoa whoa.Thyunda said:a British-born, justifiably racist woman.
Did you just state that racism is justifiable?
that's a giant load of bullshit and it stinks of victim blaming.Thyunda said:... you can understand why that person might be a little bit racist...such as when the influx of a certain race has managed to destabilise the entire city, and it's still suffering from the after-effects.
Not at all, but I wouldn't blame a rape victim for getting nervous around a group of hooded men either.GrandmaFunk said:that's a giant load of bullshit and it stinks of victim blaming.Thyunda said:... you can understand why that person might be a little bit racist...such as when the influx of a certain race has managed to destabilise the entire city, and it's still suffering from the after-effects.
Would you ever use the length of a woman's skirt to explain how you can understand where her rapist was coming from?
And there was I thinking that racism could never be justified.Thyunda said:justifiably racist
Are you sure you don't mean Ken Clarke? Quite a big difference, one is Labour, the other is Tory.Oh. And y'know what else? Every time a politician says something that makes a tiny bit of sense, the fucking Liberal Democrats start running their mouths, and then the poor sod gets disowned by his own party.
I'm referring to Ken Livingstone, and his push for different rape sentences - i.e. Intoxicated sex should get a far shorter sentence than violent rape. This was met by the anti-Ken 'Rape is rape' campaign.
Pretty sure the government would strongly condemn such statements, regardless of how the Irish Catholic community might respond.Volf99 said:sorry about all the questions, just give this one question your best guess then... what if on January 30th, a Muslim Pakistani community/religious leader went on the News on tv and tried to justify Bloody Sunday? What would be the UK governments response if his comments caused outraged/backlash amongst the Irish Catholics in the UK/Ireland/Irish government?
but of course, they have also eliminated world hunger, energy dependency, diseases and have begun to send out colony ships to the rest of the solar system. They wouldnt do this because some powermad people have promise to cut them off if they dont promote their agenda right?The Artificially Prolonged said:I take it American customs have caught all the drug smugglers, human traffickers and illegal immigrants, so they are only after dvds because they now have nothing better to do.