USA - Police State here we come!

[darksakul]

Yeah, it's pretty unfortunate. Though, I lived in China for a month and a half, and I've gotta say, unless you're a political activist or an ethnic minority, the only major problems there are the rampant, unchallenged corruption and the internet censorship (and thus the slow speeds of using VPNs). So, living under a police state isn't that bad...

(/sarcasm, though I will say being an average citizen in China isn't as bad as some people make it out to be)

Saw this thread, start reading.
saw a aljazeera.com URL.

Stop reading right there, realized the OP is a troll.

Aljazeera as a source of credible news on the US Government? Really Now?!

Aljazeera is the "Fox News of the Middle East", infamous for there one sided and sometimes fabricated stories often trying to depict the US as villians.

I assure you, I am no Troll.

And really? Al Jazeera is the "Fox News" of the Middle East? Al Jazeera is 'infamous for there one-sided and sometimes fabricated stories"??????

Really? Where do you get your information good sir? Al Jazeera is downright the most credible and professional news organisation out there, a thousand times better than Fox News or CNN.

Can you give me ANY evidence, at all, that Al Jazeera (English) has ever fabricated a story? I assure you, you'll be looking for a long time.

It's an unfortunate belief among some Americans that because Al Jazeera reports some unfortunate truths about America that won't get found in American media (but will probably be found in BBC), it must be biased against the US.

Show me the BBC news story that collaborates with this

 

[CulixCupric]

Well, the USA is one step closer to being a Police State.. The House of Representatives just passed a bill containing, among other equally horrid things, "legislation that would deny terror suspects, including US citizens, the right to trial and permit authorities to detain them indefinitely."

Now the Bill still has to pass through the Senate, but chances are it'll get through.

So basically, the authorities in the USA can detain anyone without trail, indefinately. It also states that that the US Military can detain these 'suspects', and well, as we all know, the US Military arent exactly well known for their emphasis on Human rights for prisoners...
*cough*Abu Ghraib*ough*

Now, I dont live in America myself, but how do the American members of the Escapist respond to this? Shock? Horror? Apathy? Happiness? Disappointment?

Source:

Spoiler

[link]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2011/12/2011121544018945737.html[/link]

the largest standing militant force in America are citizens with guns. also, American solders wouldn't shoot civilians, even if armed. we'd have a revolution. and the government would get their ass handed to them.

 

[KiruTheMant]

It's funny cuz most Americans whine about this and that yet they don't vote these assholes out of office, so quite frankly the idiots are not just the politicians, but the dummies are the people who keep re-electing these no good pos politicians. Those who whine about it but do nothing are part of the problem.

And who would you suggest we vote for instead? The worst part is, these ARE the best choices, at least they were when they began. As it goes, there is little political variety because most politicians come from the same background, and one of three sets of opinions.

 

[Darth_Dude]

Well, the USA is one step closer to being a Police State.. The House of Representatives just passed a bill containing, among other equally horrid things, "legislation that would deny terror suspects, including US citizens, the right to trial and permit authorities to detain them indefinitely."

Now the Bill still has to pass through the Senate, but chances are it'll get through.

So basically, the authorities in the USA can detain anyone without trail, indefinately. It also states that that the US Military can detain these 'suspects', and well, as we all know, the US Military arent exactly well known for their emphasis on Human rights for prisoners...
*cough*Abu Ghraib*ough*

Now, I dont live in America myself, but how do the American members of the Escapist respond to this? Shock? Horror? Apathy? Happiness? Disappointment?

Source:

Spoiler

[link]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2011/12/2011121544018945737.html[/link]

the largest standing militant force in America are citizens with guns. also, American solders wouldn't shoot civilians, even if armed. we'd have a revolution. and the government would get their ass handed to them.

But thats the thing, the government would never just tell soldiers to shoot innocent protesters. It would use the media, (that it is increasingly controlling) and label the protesters 'terrorists', or 'communists', or something. It's the same thing thing happening in Syria right now, the government is labelling all the protesters 'terrorists.'

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

Didn't the White House already say they would veto this into the dirt? And besides, it'd never hold up against the Supreme Court.

Yeah, about that... See, Obama realized that he was only going to be remembered as "The first Black President". That wasn't good enough for him. Now hes aiming to be "The biggest hypocritical prick in the history of the USA."

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/15/obama_to_sign_indefinite_detention_bill_into_law/singleton/

I have lost what little respect I had for him.

He also backed down on his veto against SOPA, so I really hope he doesn't get re-elected, but then again, what sane person do the US got left then to represent them?

It's just another "least awful" candidate debate now. The only question is who is going to fuck up the least in the next four years. Outcome does not look good on all sides. ;/