V for Vendetta, gay rights film?

[thedoombreeder]

I just watched V for vendetta and something odd occurred to me. There were alot of gay people in that movie and it promoted some of the views of gay activists is this a coincidence? Or just my imagination? Oh and was V a woman or a man?

 

[Hammered]

Not seen the whole film, but the trailer seemed quite gay...

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

*headdesk*
No no no no...

 

[rossatdi]

Not that I remember. Its just that in a totalitarian regime it has been declared illegal and subversive. I think it was probably an anti-prejudice films, but there are so few pro-prejudice films these days.

I'm counting Stephen Fry's character and the character from the prison letters/story. That's 2. I'm probably missing some but considering some estimates place the gay population at 1 in 10 then I don't think that's a particular statement.

 

[poleboy]

I just watched V for vendetta and something odd occurred to me. There were alot of gay people in that movie and it promoted some of the views of gay activists is this a coincidence? Or just my imagination? Oh and was V a woman or a man?

I never noticed that, but it's been a while since I saw it.

Oh, and if V was supposed to be a woman, they probably wouldn't have cast Wolverine for the part..

 

[TheGhostOfSin]

Oh, and if V was supposed to be a woman, they probably wouldn't have cast Wolverine for the part..

???
They didn't, it was that guy who played Agent Smith in the Matrix

 

[Reaperman Wompa]

V was a man and the reason there was a lot of gay subject in that movie was because that's what the movies about, segregation and murder of anyone not completely fitting the necessary image to survive.

Same as the Nazi's. Anyone not straight and British in a country like that would be "removed" in one way or another.

How did you miss that?

 

[Xhumed]

It focuses on the supression of minorities, one of which is homosexuals- it's not a gay rights film, it's about freedom to live. The right-wing government in the book arrests most lefties, homosexuals, and ethnic minorities. The story about the lesbian woman is from the graphic novel, Stephen Fry's character has been added by the filmakers. Since Stephen Fry is gay in real life, I suppose it made sense to make his character gay as well.
Oh, and V is a man- The Man in Room V(5), as he is refered to.
EDIT:
V is played by HUGO WEAVING. He played Agent Smith, and was in Priscilla: Queen of The Desert. Look it up why don't you?

 

[poleboy]

Oh, and if V was supposed to be a woman, they probably wouldn't have cast Wolverine for the part..

???
They didn't.

Oops, my mistake. Agent Smith, then. Although elves are a bit... genderless.

 

[Danny Ocean]

*headdesk*
No no no no...

Dont'choo dent my desk! Foo!

 

[thedoombreeder]

BTW i am not a homophobe or nothing of the type just wanted to grab a few opinions from the crowd at large.

 

[Gitsnik]

I'm counting Stephen Fry's character and the character from the prison letters/story. That's 2. I'm probably missing some but considering some estimates place the gay population at 1 in 10 then I don't think that's a particular statement.

Nah that's it (I just finished watching the movie before I hit the forums). The other minorities you see are the priest with the... younger females (*wanders off to sharpen an axe*), the free speech people (i.e. the girl shot wearing the mask), Muslims (they are a apparently-Christian "god fearing [nation] and god damned proud of it"), foreigners (Americans for example) and "terrorists" though that term is used loosely.

The movie is a social commentary. But then again so is Starship Troopers and, like that, I recommend the paper version to the flicker-show.

Cheers

Gits.

 

[RetiarySword]

V is a guy, and it does haev alot of gay references but its mostly about freedom of speach and actions...

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

The story about the lesbian woman is from the graphic novel, Stephen Fry's character has been added by the filmakers. Since Stephen Fry is gay in real life, I suppose it made sense to make his character gay as well.

They've also removed Finch's speech about how he loved the Black people and the Gay men.

They've also removed Helen Heyer, the scheming woman who manipulates a lot of the events.

But lets leave it to Alan Moore (the creator)

[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country? It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives?which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England."[10]

Switching to Wiki

He later adds that if the Wachowskis had wanted to protest what was going on in the United States, then they should have used a political narrative that spoke directly at the USA's issues, similar to what Moore had done before with Britain. The film changes the original message by arguably having changed "V" into a freedom fighter instead of an anarchist. An interview with producer Joel Silver suggests that the change may not have been conscious; he identifies the V of the comics as a clear-cut "superhero? a masked avenger who pretty much saves the world," a simplification that goes against Moore's own statements about V's role in the story.

Also the fact that Moore's stories are about Sexuality in general, and mostly Super-Heterosexuality. (See The Watchmen, King Hell, Swamp Thing)

 

[thedoombreeder]

The story about the lesbian woman is from the graphic novel, Stephen Fry's character has been added by the filmakers. Since Stephen Fry is gay in real life, I suppose it made sense to make his character gay as well.

They've also removed Finch's speech about how he loved the Black people and the Gay men.

They've also removed Helen Heyer, the scheming woman who manipulates a lot of the events.

But lets leave it to Alan Moore (the creator)

[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country? It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives?which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England."[10]

Switching to Wiki

He later adds that if the Wachowskis had wanted to protest what was going on in the United States, then they should have used a political narrative that spoke directly at the USA's issues, similar to what Moore had done before with Britain. The film changes the original message by arguably having changed "V" into a freedom fighter instead of an anarchist. An interview with producer Joel Silver suggests that the change may not have been conscious; he identifies the V of the comics as a clear-cut "superhero? a masked avenger who pretty much saves the world," a simplification that goes against Moore's own statements about V's role in the story.

Also the fact that Moore's stories are about Sexuality in general, and mostly Super-Heterosexuality. (See The Watchmen, King Hell, Swamp Thing)

You know what ticks me off about that, flippin movie producers that take the original theme from the comic and totally distort it...ack..

 

[Alex_P]

I think it was probably an anti-prejudice films, but there are so few pro-prejudice films these days.

There are few directly pro-prejudice films. There are still lots of subtly or accidentally pro-prejudice films.

-- Alex

 

[Simski]

Oh, and if V was supposed to be a woman, they probably wouldn't have cast Wolverine for the part..

???
They didn't, it was that guy who played Agent Smith in the Matrix

Awesome, is it a coincidence that this person keeps appearing in alot of movies I like...

 

[Ixus Illwrath]

Oh, and if V was supposed to be a woman, they probably wouldn't have cast Wolverine for the part..

???
They didn't.

Oops, my mistake. Agent Smith, then. Although elves are a bit... genderless.

It was Hugo Weaving - who is also Megatron, Agent Smith, and Elrond of the elves.

 

[Gxas]

The movie is all about politics and a totalitarian regime. It has nothing to do with gay rights. I would suggest the graphic novel that the movie is based on. It is quite good.