Valve pursued by EA for over a possible $1 billion

[xPixelatedx]

Considering valve isn't even on my gaming radar, I don't think this would have effected me what so ever. I would have been far more broken up if EA bought Nintendo, and I don't even like the current Nintendo brand very much.

 

[TheDutch3Z]

Can you name the studios that Valve bought out?

Can't, but if you look up information about Portal, Counter-Strike, DOTA, Left 4 Dead and Alien Swarm, you'll find out.

Portal - Digipen was offered to work at Valve in 2006.
Alien Swarm - the development team behind the alien swarm never had a company.In 2007 they were hired by Valve.
Counter strike - the two original creators Minh "Gooseman" Le and Jess Cliffe were hired by Valve shortly after creating the mod.
Team fortress - the original development team was hired in 1999 to prt the mod to Gldsrc.
Left 4 Dead - Turtle rock studios were acquired by Valve in 2008,so they are the only company to be bought by Valve.

Now could you tell me what is the difference between "hiring someone" and "buying out someone"?

 

[aguspal]

LOL.


I dont really have anything aganist EA, but this is really a bit ridiculous. I highly doubt Valve is going to seel themselves. They are happy with how they are. I just dont see it happening. Plus they are complete oppositives if you come to think about it. Then again, I shall remember you people:

EA GAMES: CHALLENGE EVERYTHING!!!


EA really challenges EVERYTHING!!! EVERYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGG

 

[Spartan448]

Based on Gabe Newell's comments in the New York Times article, the only way Valve will ever go to EA is if Gabe suddenly dies and EA inserts one of it's top execs as the new Valve... well... OWNER.

On another note, according to the NYT article, Portal can be used to teach Physics. Def bringing that article to my Physics teacher.

 

[daibakuha]

There really should be a ban on post-modernism. There's only so many shades of gray out there, kiddo, and some are darker than others.

Then use the language of adults and not the words of incompetent children.

"EA is evil!!!!" should read: "I disagree with their gaming policy and the direction the company has taken, I think it's bad for the industry and consumer"

Expressing yourself as an adult should is a good way for people to take your opinion seriously.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

There really should be a ban on post-modernism. There's only so many shades of gray out there, kiddo, and some are darker than others.

Then use the language of adults and not the words of incompetent children.

"EA is evil!!!!" should read: "I disagree with their gaming policy and the direction the company has taken, I think it's bad for the industry and consumer"

Expressing yourself as an adult should is a good way for people to take your opinion seriously.

I used the language used by the poster I was quoting, who said that neither EA nor Valve was evil, but that they were both neutral. Then I put it into D&D alignment terms. I think the problem here is you're the one taking things /too/ seriously, not that I'm failing to get others to take my opinions seriously.

 

[aprildog18]

I first thought this was going to be about a troll from EA giving an offer of $1 for Valve .

Spoiler

Little did I know that I was missing a few 0's.

 

[EstrogenicMuscle]

Never gonna happen, eventually valve will buy EA.

Now that, would be a nice development.

Seriously, it is as if EA want to kill everything good in the industry.

EA is the X-Death of games.
Look at this monster. Look at this cliched, nonsensical villain. This villain actually exists and is called Electronic Arts.

 

[daibakuha]

There really should be a ban on post-modernism. There's only so many shades of gray out there, kiddo, and some are darker than others.

Then use the language of adults and not the words of incompetent children.

"EA is evil!!!!" should read: "I disagree with their gaming policy and the direction the company has taken, I think it's bad for the industry and consumer"

Expressing yourself as an adult should is a good way for people to take your opinion seriously.

I used the language used by the poster I was quoting, who said that neither EA nor Valve was evil, but that they were both neutral. Then I put it into D&D alignment terms. I think the problem here is you're the one taking things /too/ seriously, not that I'm failing to get others to take my opinions seriously.

Actually I hijacked your post to make a point, you were just an example.

I mean look at the other posts in this thread, above mine. This is not intelligent debate and conversation, it's children complaining about their toys.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

There really should be a ban on post-modernism. There's only so many shades of gray out there, kiddo, and some are darker than others.

Then use the language of adults and not the words of incompetent children.

"EA is evil!!!!" should read: "I disagree with their gaming policy and the direction the company has taken, I think it's bad for the industry and consumer"

Expressing yourself as an adult should is a good way for people to take your opinion seriously.

I used the language used by the poster I was quoting, who said that neither EA nor Valve was evil, but that they were both neutral. Then I put it into D&D alignment terms. I think the problem here is you're the one taking things /too/ seriously, not that I'm failing to get others to take my opinions seriously.

Actually I hijacked your post to make a point, you were just an example.

I mean look at the other posts in this thread, above mine. This is not intelligent debate and conversation, it's children complaining about their toys.

Then you might have picked a better post to quote. Regardless, EA is not a consumer-friendly company. They're anti-consumer and bent on destroying certain basic consumer rights. From where I'm standing, that's pretty damned evil. The shades of gray come in here with Valve; they aren't exactly good guys either.

 

[daibakuha]

Then you might have picked a better post to quote. Regardless, EA is not a consumer-friendly company. They're anti-consumer and bent on destroying certain basic consumer rights. From where I'm standing, that's pretty damned evil. The shades of gray come in here with Valve; they aren't exactly good guys either.

You don't like decisions being made by EA, therefor they are evil.

I don't like some of the decisions made by Activision Blizzard, Bethesda, Valve or Square Enix, but I wouldn't call any of those companies evil. Doing so only cheapens the argument with useless hyperbole. It adds nothing and says a lot about the person making the argument.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Then you might have picked a better post to quote. Regardless, EA is not a consumer-friendly company. They're anti-consumer and bent on destroying certain basic consumer rights. From where I'm standing, that's pretty damned evil. The shades of gray come in here with Valve; they aren't exactly good guys either.

You don't like decisions being made by EA, therefor they are evil.

I don't like some of the decisions made by Activision Blizzard, Bethesda, Valve or Square Enix, but I wouldn't call any of those companies evil. Doing so only cheapens the argument with useless hyperbole. It adds nothing and says a lot about the person making the argument.

I'd say moral relativism is a point of view, actually. A pretty crappy one at that. It's the kind of thing that people ascribe to less because they are intelligent and more because they want to be viewed as such.

Captcha: karma points

Yes, captcha. You don't get any karma points by ascribing to moral relativity.

 

[Jumpingbean3]

If EA bought them, why would EA see any reason to interfere with what is obviously very successful?

Probably for the same reason they interfered with Origin Systems and Bullfrog and sink so much money into marketing campaigns that the game they market has so sell an absurd number of copies just to break even.

Valve isn't a developer, it's a retailer.

Actually ValVe both sells and makes games so technically it's both and given that the one time I can remember EA working with ValVe on a project was Left 4 Dead 2 I think it's quite probable they would use ValVe to make games.

In regards to the OT they are highly unlikely to ever buy ValVe because ValVe and EA have completely different ideas of how to make money. EA believes that you should exploit your customers in every way you can think of and ValVe believes in listening to their customers and building trust.

 

[Xangba]

If EA bought them, why would EA see any reason to interfere with what is obviously very successful?

Bioware was a loved company that was praised for its games by the fans, why would EA see any reason to interfere with what is obviously very successful?

Edit: I'm not part of the Bioware hate, I still like them, but in reference to the general rage on them.

 

[Strain-D]

The actual quotes in question:

"Valve has been pursued over the years by Electronic Arts, which would very likely have valued Valve at well over $1 billion had the talks progressed that far"

"Mr. Newell said that there was a better chance that Valve would ?disintegrate,? its independent-minded workers scattering, than that it would ever be sold"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/technology/valve-a-video-game-maker-with-few-rules.html?pagewanted=3&_r=2

 

[daibakuha]

I'd say moral relativism is a point of view, actually. A pretty crappy one at that. It's the kind of thing that people ascribe to less because they are intelligent and more because they want to be viewed as such.

Nice Try, but this isn't about moral relativism( An idea I don't subscribe to), this is about the overuse of hyberbole and how it leads to the detriment of your argument.

To be honest it's more about false equivalency. EA is not Hitler, it's not North Korea. It doesn't mass murder people, it doesn't torture the innocent and suppress people. Putting it on the same level cheapens not only what you are trying to say, but makes light of the acts of those terrible people.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

I'd say moral relativism is a point of view, actually. A pretty crappy one at that. It's the kind of thing that people ascribe to less because they are intelligent and more because they want to be viewed as such.

Nice Try, but this isn't about moral relativism( An idea I don't subscribe to), this is about the overuse of hyberbole and how it leads to the detriment of your argument.

To be honest it's more about false equivalency. EA is not Hitler, it's not North Korea. It doesn't mass murder people, it doesn't torture the innocent and suppress people. Putting it on the same level cheapens not only what you are trying to say, but makes light of the acts of those terrible people.

No, it's none of those. You know what it /is/? A corporation that is trying to take away my property rights. They violate people's rights. That is sufficient. There is more to good and evil than whether or not you're a mass murderer.

 

[Saltarius]

Valve?

Being bought...

By EA of all people?