Valve Says "Hang In There" For Half-Life 2: Episode 3
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I think he's saying 'hold your horses' now because Portal 2 may explain what is next.
My Theories:
* Merging the storylines in a sequel to both (eg. Portal 3 = HL3).
* HL2:E3 included in Portal 2
It seems more likely the next Half-Life game will be a full sequel, if they go an release a short episode after this long I bet they'll give it away for free or something awesome.
My Theories:
* Merging the storylines in a sequel to both (eg. Portal 3 = HL3).
* HL2:E3 included in Portal 2
It seems more likely the next Half-Life game will be a full sequel, if they go an release a short episode after this long I bet they'll give it away for free or something awesome.
A long time ago I read in a swedish gaming magazine an interview with Valve where they said that EP3 should be called HL3 due to a very different environment compared to HL2 and longer than the episodes, but it will remain EP3 since there was already so much talk about. Might have changed since, I think I saw it about 2 years ago..
i recon its gonna be a reverse this time round =p last time portal came out as a mini game in the orange box, i recon secretly ep 3 is the mini game with portal 2
Im hanging and ill keep using all my strenght to hang till it comes...
I dont want it to be rushed... Valve take youre time, make us another wonder, we trust in you.
Ill wait what it takes, because rushing half life would only destroy a great series... Take youre time valve... take youre time...
I dont want it to be rushed... Valve take youre time, make us another wonder, we trust in you.
Ill wait what it takes, because rushing half life would only destroy a great series... Take youre time valve... take youre time...
There was a time i really cared about half life. i never played through the first one, i started to and lost interest in all of 15 minutes. but i really loved half life 2. at the time of playing it, i had never played an FPS quite like it. the episodes were very fun as well.
But hell, I can hardly remember the story anymore. I can't even remember how episode 2 ends. I'll still get episode 3 when it comes out, for sure, but im going to go ahead and sign up with the 99% of the people who replied to this forum: Valve, you missed the point of episodic game releases. I'm sure you have your reasons, and i'm sure they are good ones, but hell, its been 4 years of NOTHING. couldn't they just say "hey guys sorry about that we tried something a little different and it didn't work, we just put too much work into half life to release it rapidly, don't worry, half life 3 will come when its good and damn well ready and you'll love it"
It's too bad. They were doing well with episode 1 and 2, at least relatively. But in the time between episode 2 and 3, they could have made episode 3 AND Half Life 3.
But hell, I can hardly remember the story anymore. I can't even remember how episode 2 ends. I'll still get episode 3 when it comes out, for sure, but im going to go ahead and sign up with the 99% of the people who replied to this forum: Valve, you missed the point of episodic game releases. I'm sure you have your reasons, and i'm sure they are good ones, but hell, its been 4 years of NOTHING. couldn't they just say "hey guys sorry about that we tried something a little different and it didn't work, we just put too much work into half life to release it rapidly, don't worry, half life 3 will come when its good and damn well ready and you'll love it"
It's too bad. They were doing well with episode 1 and 2, at least relatively. But in the time between episode 2 and 3, they could have made episode 3 AND Half Life 3.
I hate the idea that people who complain about the length of time it's taking are whiny entitled fanboys.
It was 6 years between half life 1 and 2 and that was a full game with an engine that had come on quite a way. Episode 1 was essentially a levels mission using the same engine, Episode 2 actually developed things a bit further with some tweaks, new areas and ideas, but it's still essentially the same engine.
Whether or not it will be a full game is besides the point really, episode 3 should have been out at the end of 2009. It should have wrapped up the story, updated the engine a bit and been a couple of hours longer than episode 2. That would have been satisfying and it would have been a reasonable ask for them to do. And they should be working on Episode 3. If they would at least just admit what's happened I'd be more forgiving. It's a safe bet it's going to be a full game now, so it's not like they have a nice surprise they're holding back.
The problem with the amount of delays is it suggests they don't have a clue what they're doing next and don't know how to wrap things up. It was nice to think they had an idea of how everything would be resolved, the fact that it's taken so longs suggests they're making things up as they go along. Not to mention if they want people to be invested in their story, they've kind of lost me. I've lost any emotional investment I had in the universe and I don't think I can get it back. I appreciate the developments you made for storytelling in games Valve, but this story was started in 1998, I don't think it should take over 13 years to tell.
Look what Ubisoft have done with Assassins Creed, in the time since that was released they overhauled the engine and made 2 full games as well as additional content as well as PSP and DS games. I know they're a much bigger company, but it's still worth noting what's possible.
It was 6 years between half life 1 and 2 and that was a full game with an engine that had come on quite a way. Episode 1 was essentially a levels mission using the same engine, Episode 2 actually developed things a bit further with some tweaks, new areas and ideas, but it's still essentially the same engine.
Whether or not it will be a full game is besides the point really, episode 3 should have been out at the end of 2009. It should have wrapped up the story, updated the engine a bit and been a couple of hours longer than episode 2. That would have been satisfying and it would have been a reasonable ask for them to do. And they should be working on Episode 3. If they would at least just admit what's happened I'd be more forgiving. It's a safe bet it's going to be a full game now, so it's not like they have a nice surprise they're holding back.
The problem with the amount of delays is it suggests they don't have a clue what they're doing next and don't know how to wrap things up. It was nice to think they had an idea of how everything would be resolved, the fact that it's taken so longs suggests they're making things up as they go along. Not to mention if they want people to be invested in their story, they've kind of lost me. I've lost any emotional investment I had in the universe and I don't think I can get it back. I appreciate the developments you made for storytelling in games Valve, but this story was started in 1998, I don't think it should take over 13 years to tell.
Look what Ubisoft have done with Assassins Creed, in the time since that was released they overhauled the engine and made 2 full games as well as additional content as well as PSP and DS games. I know they're a much bigger company, but it's still worth noting what's possible.
Frankly I predict that Valve has been working on Half Life 3 this entire time and never telling us about it.
Thank fuck for that. It shows they haven't decided to shelve the franchise for the next X amount of years while they work on Portal 4 or L4D7. After the cliffhanger they left at the end of Ep:2, they shouldn't be surprised that people want to get on with the damn story. I mean, I'd be bloody pleased by a freaking story synopsis at this point.
Not irrelevant at all. You were saying you're not voting for them because no games of theirs are coming out this year. Portal 2 is. Therefore, it is relevant.mew4ever23 said:
Now, it's not coming out in time for MM, you're right. So maybe it is not ENTIRELY relevant. But you can't just say they're sitting on their asses doing nothing.