Valve Unveils Hardware-Based Steam Security

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Celtic_Kerr

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Irridium said:
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So if my computer explodes, or I go traveling, can I unwire my Steam account?
Yeah, what if we change computers or something? Or, like he said, travel?

Thats one of Steam's selling points, which is "take Steam with you wherever you go, and download your games anywhere!".
My question is:

Say I go to my friends' houses a lot to play videog games. If I'm constantly switching which computer my steam account is hooked up to, will it look like I've cracked the Hard-ware to steam? Will they shut it down?
 

Baresark

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Tubez said:
Argh dubbel post -.-
Double post! Oh my god, what does it mean!!

Haha, sorry. I missed out on all that double rainbow stuff, and I saw an opening. It's out of my system now, never again.
 

Lawyer105

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Woodsey said:
Lawyer105 said:
Wait, what?

This is all about YOUR games and YOUR account and YOU not being fucked over. They're not covering themselves.
Ummm... no. That's what they tell you. But if your hard disk dies or your motherboard burns out, hell, if you do some upgrading... how easy is it going to be to persuade the Steam system that this isn't a different computer trying to access your account, hmm?

I'd like to be able to say I trust Valve enough that I could believe they'd do this right. But hardware verification is even dodgier than software / online authentication, so I don't.
 

John Funk

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So, this just seems like a limited version of the services already offered by Blizzard/Paypal?

Seriously, Valve. Just copy the Blizzard authenticator and release iOS/Android apps for it. No pesky hardware requirements, no one-computer-only requirement, and it's just as secure.
 

MrTub

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Baresark said:
Tubez said:
Argh dubbel post -.-
Double post! Oh my god, what does it mean!!

Haha, sorry. I missed out on all that double rainbow stuff, and I saw an opening. It's out of my system now, never again.
Din jävla idiot. I'm busy with something else so excuse me that my english isnt fucking perfect.
 

Caiti Voltaire

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This is strictly voluntary, right? Because if this is required, I'm gonna be furious.
Agreed. And what happens if you fry the CPU or something? Assuming they let you unwire the account you'd have to wait for Stream Support to address the ticket to do so, and anyone whose gone through using the Steam support tickets can tell you it takes an arduous amount of time to get anything from Steam Support.
 

Twad

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I dont know.. Is it really necessary? Is account theft -that- common on Steam? Or is is just some sort of backhanded drm or whatever that will only get in the way of legitimate users anyway? (like, changing/upgrading your hardware)

Will it allow me to play all my games in offline mode if i wish to? After all is "locked" on my PC right? IIRC my Sword of the Stars game doesnt want to work in offline mode, and its really irritating.

Pirates will find a workaround in less than a week regardless...
My guess is that they just dont want you to install your Steam game on a gaming comuter you have at home, then set it offline forever. So you "must" buy more copies of games you already own.
It is why i have stong doubts about such a system.
 

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Lawyer105 said:
Woodsey said:
Lawyer105 said:
Wait, what?

This is all about YOUR games and YOUR account and YOU not being fucked over. They're not covering themselves.
Ummm... no. That's what they tell you. But if your hard disk dies or your motherboard burns out, hell, if you do some upgrading... how easy is it going to be to persuade the Steam system that this isn't a different computer trying to access your account, hmm?

I'd like to be able to say I trust Valve enough that I could believe they'd do this right. But hardware verification is even dodgier than software / online authentication, so I don't.
Oh Christ, you're one of those people - everything's secretly a cock slap.

Pray tell, what would Valve gain by locking you out of their store that earns them millions, and all your games, and costing them lots of Steam users?

The system isn't even fully detailed in this report - and its pretty obvious that when they came up with the idea, they had enough brain power to work out that on PCs, people change hardware.

And its voluntary anyway.
 

Petromir

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Nobody bothered to read the article that well did they.

Its there to lock down account management, you can still access all your games from any PC, its there to stop you actual deatils be hacked or changed.

It can't be made compulasary as its only possible on a limited range of intel CPUs.
 

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Tubez said:
Baresark said:
Tubez said:
Argh dubbel post -.-
Double post! Oh my god, what does it mean!!

Haha, sorry. I missed out on all that double rainbow stuff, and I saw an opening. It's out of my system now, never again.
Din jävla idiot. I'm busy with something else so excuse me that my english isnt fucking perfect.
I think you're misunderstanding him. He wasn't commenting on your English, he was just referring to the viral video double rainbow, which sort of spawned a meme based on that everything that's double is awesome.
 

Baresark

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Tubez said:
Baresark said:
Tubez said:
Argh dubbel post -.-
Double post! Oh my god, what does it mean!!

Haha, sorry. I missed out on all that double rainbow stuff, and I saw an opening. It's out of my system now, never again.
Din jävla idiot. I'm busy with something else so excuse me that my english isnt fucking perfect.
I must say, it's rather glorious the way you put that as a reply. It's true, I regretted doing it one second after I did it.
 

theultimateend

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I would prefer just using an authenticator. Blizzard really did have the right idea.

monnes said:
Tubez said:
Baresark said:
Tubez said:
Argh dubbel post -.-
Double post! Oh my god, what does it mean!!

Haha, sorry. I missed out on all that double rainbow stuff, and I saw an opening. It's out of my system now, never again.
Din jävla idiot. I'm busy with something else so excuse me that my english isnt fucking perfect.
I think you're misunderstanding him. He wasn't commenting on your English, he was just referring to the viral video double rainbow, which sort of spawned a meme based on that everything that's double is awesome.
I think you're misunderstanding him. Your avatar is amazing.
 

RobfromtheGulag

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"a two-factor authentication built into some second-generation Intel Core CPUs"

This scares me.

"Hey let's hardwire a feature into PCs that allows 3rd parties to know what users are doing without their knowledge"