Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption

[Guilherme Zoldan]

Okay so Bloodlines has sort of become a cult hit in recent times, but what about its lesser known older brother, Redemption? I played the heck out of that game when I was younger and by god was it totaly awesome. Sure it wasnt tremendously faithfull to the source material in terms of gameplay but it was still a load of fun.
Also that theme song rocked.

So I ask escapists, does anybody here remmember this game? And if so what did you think of it?

 

[TheAbominableDan]

I remember it. I remember I could never beat it because there was one level where my stupid ally wouldn't stop walking through the sunlight. But it was a fun game.

 

[Guilherme Zoldan]

Ah the clocktower level. I actualy thought it was a pretty neat level with the sunlight stuff. Shame they never used it in any other area.

 

[TheAbominableDan]

Oh it was neat. But my stupid AI companion just kept walking around, being on fire.

 

[DoPo]

I found it lots of fun. Also I found it because I mistook it for Bloodlines (I was waiting for Bloodline's release). At any rate, I loved it. I've replayed it several times since then and the game is still good any time I do it.

I don't know what you mean by "wasnt tremendously faithfull to the source material" - the Disciplines were at least a very accurate depictions...aside from learning them from a book, at least. Sure, some parts were a bit off, but it comes with the transition to a different medium. All in all, I think I'll call it at least somewhat faithful. Also, I think it was more in line with 2nd edition VtM but I'm not too familiar with it to make an accurate judgement.

What I hated in the game was the sometimes moronic AI of the companions. I don't think there was an option to stop autocasting because I recall I just left them behind and did most easy fights with Christof, otherwise I'm pretty sure they would just blow tremendous amounts of Vitae to kill a cockroach. And also the modern day guns were really weird. Unless investing in them, it was better to stay with the machete. And the most irritating part of the game was, I believe, a fight close to the beginning of the game, when you faced a scythe wielding enemy in some...caves? Caverns? Tunnels? At any rate, that guy is a motherloving c*** - I still shudder at the though of him. He would make your party frenzy really easy and once he did that - it was over. I must have played that fight at least fifty times in total - I hate him in my guts.

 

[Jandau]

A very underrated game. Sure, it wasn't perfect, the story segments were interspersed with too much hack&slash and the AI was kinda poop, but the game had a fun story, good aesthetic design, fun combat and a steep difficulty.

Seriously, I hear people whining about the Belltower level. That shit was easy! Just tell your companions to stop following you and then march each one through the sunlight areas on your own. You know what a hard level was? Tremere Chantry. TREMERE FUCKING CHANTRY!!! I still have nightmares from that level. Groups of mages that can 2-3 shot any one of your characters, all using spells that send you into Frenzy at a drop of a hat. You needed to execute each fight perfectly to stand a chance...

 

[Guilherme Zoldan]

The Tremere chantry was really nasty.
And what I meant about the source material was more relating to the tone of the thing. Vampire the Masquerade is not really meant to be such a combat-fest. And youre certainly not meant to kill an army of vampires every night.

 

[DoPo]

And what I meant about the source material was more relating to the tone of the thing. Vampire the Masquerade is not really meant to be such a combat-fest. And youre certainly not meant to kill an army of vampires every night.

Well, true but again - the transition of medium. Even Bloodlines is not faithful in that respect - things are pretty crazy for a VtM game: a Gehenna cult, Sabbat, even more Sabbat, serial killers, blood hunts, the Society of Leopold making a visit in tow, and so on. It's a small wander how they managed to keep the Masquerade in place, considering the Camarilla isn't even that powerful in LA.

But yeah, I get what you mean - I'm pretty sure what Christof does in Redemption can be considered genocide as I've lost count of the vampires he obliterated. His kill count should be sufficient to depopulate a reasonably large city.

Other than that, I loved the atmosphere of the game. I really felt as if there was a larger world out there not just what's depicted in a video game.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

A very underrated game. Sure, it wasn't perfect, the story segments were interspersed with too much hack&slash and the AI was kinda poop, but the game had a fun story, good aesthetic design, fun combat and a steep difficulty.

Seriously, I hear people whining about the Belltower level. That shit was easy! Just tell your companions to stop following you and then march each one through the sunlight areas on your own. You know what a hard level was? Tremere Chantry. TREMERE FUCKING CHANTRY!!! I still have nightmares from that level. Groups of mages that can 2-3 shot any one of your characters, all using spells that send you into Frenzy at a drop of a hat. You needed to execute each fight perfectly to stand a chance...

That fucking level is the reason I stopped playing. Could not get past it to save my life.

Fuck.

FUCK.

But yeah, I remember that game very well. Entirely, stupidly difficult at times, but certainly nifty.

 

[ResonanceGames]

I remember enjoying it back in the day, even though it ran like crap on my computer. It was kind of precursor to the more action-and-story direction RPGs have taken over the last 12 years, IIRC.

It's on GOG, I should just plow through it again for the nostalgia.

 

[targren]

That's actually the game that brought me into real PC gaming. I was very into the Pen-and-paper game at the time it came out, and my old man offered to get it for me (I was 21 at the time but paying my way through college and money was tight) but I didn't have a "3D Accelerator." So he bought me both.

I think my favorite part of the game was how, in different parts of the story, it covered both the fairly-recent "Dark Ages" as well as the the standard 2nd Edition.