Vampires... Your definition?

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Epic_Mushroom

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My personal favourite, and what I think about when people say 'real' vampires, are those of 'Vampire: The Masquerade', in White Wolf's 'Old World of Darkness'. Sunlight was fatal if they were exposed for more than a few seconds, their bodies were more resistant to mundane injuries but immune to nothing and they were dependent on blood not for survival but to stay animate and call upon most of their powers. They were also divided into several vampire families, called clans, that determined the powers they had the easiest access to and the type of curse they were put through; for example the Nosferatu were hideously ugly, so ugly that they could not be mistaken for humans under normal circumstances whilst the Venture had to limit themselves to a certain kind of mortal, job description, ethnicity, religious beliefs etc etc, to gain any kind of sustenance.

Mostly, however, I was enamoured to their ways of coping with their new natures. The transformation left them all with a monstrous destructive side, called the Beast, that would try to corrupt and destroy everything around them, regardless of what it meant to the vampire, or sometimes it would target those specifically because of that. They had ways of keeping the beast under control, mostly by maintaining their humanity, but things like violence murder or even simple theft made the Beast gain just a little more ground, and it was ground hard-won. Pardon my rambling, but these are what I consider proper vampires; not overly powerful though significantly more powerful than your average mortal, locked in a struggle with their own bestial nature and unable to rely on anyone but themselves and perhaps those few vampires nearest. And even those you'd be better off watching with care, too.
 

The_Blue_Rider

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Siuki said:
SirBryghtside said:
I only really use the 'suck blood' thing for vampires - because some of the other stuff is a bit ridiculous. Garlic is their weakness? Really?
Vampire's don't suck! They scrape and lick.
You know how dracula do it, its a scrape and lick motion :D
Bill and mandy FTW
 

Sister Jaxs

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Anyone remember Blade? Now that was a good vampire. Modern, with a twist and a whole lot of guns.
Still kept the whole "I'm a monster, who kills other monsters." But added alot of good action.
 

Anchupom

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I keep two ideas of Vampires.

30-days-of-night vampires and astocratic vampires. :D
 

ctuncks

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For a topic like this, I believe this trope is appropriate http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OurVampiresAreDifferent. However at current I believe that "The old World of Darkness" has a very good setup for what defines a vampire (as well as enough variations to keep things interesting)

For the unenlightened VTM has a fairly concrete set of rules that define a vampire:
Undead
Requires blood to animate their corpse and to fuel their abilities and attributes
Has to wrestle with an animalistic, ID-like force (Aka The Beast) for control
Immortal
Able to heal by spending blood
More resilient to mundane sources of damage
Animals are generally uneasy around them (mortals too if you conceal your nature poorly)
Vulnerable to powers of "True Faith"
Getting Staked causes paralysis.
Extremely vulnerable to sunlight and fire, both physically and psychologically

That?s pretty well much all the major bases covered but they can further powers/weakness? depending on their clan.

Using my character from the current game of Dark Ages I?m playing I can demonstrate how a vampire can deviate from the concrete set of rules above.

As a member of Clan Lasombra (one of the vampiric high clans) he has the extra weaknesses of both extra vulnerability to sunlight (on top of the standard vulnerability) and casting no reflection. However on the plus side clan membership has given him easy access to their three common powers (Disciplines)
Potence: Which is just another name for Super Strength
Dominate: The ability to command others to do your will, generally requires eye contact and understood spoken words.
Obtenebration: Control over the shadows and darkness from the otherworldly ?Abyss?

On top of this one can take extra traits to further customise their vampire to be different from the norm.

For example my character has an extreme vulnerability to water (Similar to vampires in Legacy of Kain)
On the plus side though he?s inoffensive to horses, and able to eat food (able to savour and taste it) though unable to gain any sustenance from it and must later hurl it back up.
 

Ekonk

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Creatures of the night, drink blood to become young again, immortal, sleep during the day in the earth in which they were laid to rest, be shown as they truly are when they sleep (corpses bloated with other people's blood), only way to kill is stake through the heart and head chopped off. May require garlic in the mouth or else they might wake up again anyway. Also absolute must: death. They must be dead.
 

Macgyvercas

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FargoDog said:
A vampire should drink blood to survive, burn in sunlight and be unable to enter the houses of others without permission. Why do so many pieces of vampire fiction forget about that last piece of lore?
Because by modern standards, it's relatively obscure. As is the one about not being able to cross running water.

Though I believe once invited inside, they can enter and leave at will.

OT: My definition of vampires? Do me a favor. Go watch Van Helsing.

*waits for you to finish watching*

Look at Dracula in that movie. That's my definition.
 

mega48man

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well shit, i got 2 really cool views of a vampire

first image;
-smart, cunning, dashing, sexy, etc, the perfect man
-an ability to have a woman fall into his control through his gaze
-pale skin? w/e, the ladies don't mind b/c they're hypnotized
-blood lust, always going for the ladies neck
-can turn into a bat and fly away when the husband/police/van helsing shows up
-owns a huge castle and welcomes guests...who never leave
-sunlight and garlics a *****, so is holy water

essentially, the original vampire but just a bit polished up.

second image
-death metal. vampires live by killing people, makes sense
-lots of blood
-has that metal rockstar look
-maybe someone like frost from blade, has a hate for the human race as a whole but understands its usefullness
-all about sex, b/c when you're bullet proof, you're a god. and when you're a god, or blood god, you should have people on their knees
-sunlight and garlic is NOT always a *****, but can be in some cases, and holy water doesn't do shit.

that's the modern vampire, pretty much something straight out of Blade or Van Helsing with hugh jackman. zealous overpowered monsters that can easily function in society, with the exception of dracula from van helsing. and remember, vampires aren't demons, relgion is out of the question, it's all genetics, just like in Blade 2.
 

emeraldrafael

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I wrote a fictional series for an advanced english class and this is what i used:
http://quizilla.teennick.com/stories/8394131/oscuro-chronicles-vampire-lore

That being said, I dont know, I find alot of the weaknesses vampyres have make them incredibly girly.
 

Malgorath

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FargoDog said:
A vampire should drink blood to survive, burn in sunlight and be unable to enter the houses of others without permission. Why do so many pieces of vampire fiction forget about that last piece of lore?
This. And they can turn into bats, wolves, and mist. They can be killed by a stake through the heart as well as sunlight.
 

RatRace123

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Blood sucking creatures with an insane amount of class and sophistication that burn up in the sunlight and hate garlic.

Basically I picture an albino Hannibal Lecter when I picture a vampire.

Not the "dark brooding gothic" vampires that mentally deranged people claim to be, or the emo sparkling kind.
 

FalloutJack

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I feel that if you're in the proper neighborhood of either Hellsing or Legacy of Kain, you're on the right track.

Either one has essentially creatures - potentially able to be horrible monsters - subsisting on blood in place of food, starting to see people as walking lunches. The sun makes you weaker, because you're a creature of the flipping NIGHT and it's hot out besides. Do you know what the sun does to a corpse? Well, vampires are un-freaking-dead, so they definitely don't like the sun!

Both Hellsing and Legacy of Kain - though different worlds - make good use of supernatural powers. Powers revolving around blood, stealth, transformation, deadly forms of attack, and so on. More to the point, there are such cases where the nature of the vampire here is backed by some research. As a graduate who actually took a class in this stuff, I can say that there is some basis in the old knowledge.

Dunno WHAT the hell Twilight is suppose to be from.
 

2fish

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I am going to agree with most of the people that posted before me. I just have a soft spot for the bloodlines in VTM:B. So I must put my support behind it and it's vampire rules.



 

tahrey

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I wouldn't go so far as to entirely agree with OP's definition, but it's close.

Let's see...

Zey Vant To Zuck Your BLAAAAAD nya-ha-ha-ha-ha! Ahem. Yes. That'd be the primary one. For whatever reason - a disease, curse, accident of evolution, whatever - they cannot easily, or at all gain nutrition from normal food or generate their own blood cells (+ plasma?) and have to take that of others. Whether or not they actually suck their prey dry or just take a donation is another issue, but having a punctured jugular is usually fatal anyhow...

May also require "living" blood, i.e. transfusion packs (generally filtered and only much good for plasma and erythrocites) are no good. Or, they might be like hot pockets. Either way.

Optionally, can turn other people into vampires, as part of the blood sucking/draining process or by other means.

Badly injured or outright killed by exposure to sunlight. Maybe it's the heat (IR?), or the ultraviolet, or albino-style hypersensitivity (lack of melatonin?), or just a curse, but they can't go outside or easily past an uncovered window during the day.

Beheading and wooden stakes through the heart are also favourites for outright kills. They make no sense, but... yknow... tradition.

Generally, no reflection, but it depends on how far along the scale of fantasy to sort-of-realistic alternate universe you want to go.

Some kind of shapeshifting ability is a good add-on.

Superhuman strength, recuperation and seductiveness is a must. And built-in Brylcreem glands. And a castle in eastern europe. Plus a vicious, evil streak a mile wide and a taste for teenage virgins (generally girls, but you never know these days, and they always were kinda louche).

Bonus points if the staking or crisping does not suffice, for reason that they may be brought back to life by means of a secret rite that can be performed once a century when the moon is in the eighth house of Aquarius - one involving arcane runes and administering a single drop of blood to their ashes/dessicated husk.
(Definitely blood - tomato ketchup will NOT do at all.)


The twiglite one - which I understand is "get a bit glowy in the sun, don't have any circulation (ergo, no erections?), and can jump hella far" - can nark right off.
 

bdcjacko

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To me, a vampire is a metaphor for a rapist, only can turn into a bat, is immortal/undead, and dies in the sun light (and drinks blood).

Anything else is some sort of leech.
 

Merkavar

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if it glitters in the sun then it isnt a vampire
if it can go out in the sun they arent a vampire
needs to drink blood to live
 

MrAkuma201

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The vamp story's say that a vamp is not alive nor dead they are meant too be a corps that climes out there grave in search for blood too keep they bodies fresh. Normally going after family, friends or anyone close to the when they where alive. There are some good documentary's on youtube about vamps werewolfs and whatnot.
 

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Anne Rice had it pretty close for me, before she started to get... you know... preachy, but other than that I don't really know.... I mean I used to watch Buffy as a kid, but the only vamp I ever liked from that was Spike... Mostly cause he's freaking hilarious