In a discussion about games and their role as art, this argument is strangely shifted. You make so that, in your words, staring cannot provoke some enjoyment? An art lover must indeed receive some joy of "staring" at a painting as you do in killing zombies or nazis.Iffat Nur said:
"The art is in the eyes of the Onlookers." That mean what is Art for me won't be for the next guys. That said, i believe game are, and are right there with Literature. Different thing for different people, i guess. I can't stand Picasso but love Salvatore Dali. Can you blame me?zombiejoe said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwPEdp70VSEAssassin Xaero said:
). ) and obviously horror games like early Silent Hill/Resident Evil.
Ummm.. seriously? that's a question?zombiejoe said:
Yeah, Dali sure phone it in when making his artwork compared to Picasso's 7 squares that have the shape of a man peeing on a giant snail. I know i said Art is in the onlooker... but this is the exception that confirm the rule. YOU ARE WRONG!Scobie said:Nothing. There is no game that is so obviously art that everyone will be convinced by it. It would really have been better if you'd just asked "What is your favourite example of games as art?", because that's basically what you were asking. That way, you wouldn't have all these dickheads like me picking your question apart.
Anyway, in answer to the actual question: STALKER: Call of Pripyat. It's probably something most people wouldn't think of, mainly because it doesn't have pretty cartoon graphics and doesn't drop the occasional reference to philosophy on you. But it evokes a strong emotional reaction in me, and it does it by using every element of the experience, including gameplay. That makes it good art (which is much more important than just being art - any idiot can make art).Personally, I would count both as artists. I would say that Dali is a bad artist, but like you said that's just my personal opinion.Akalistos said:"The art is in the eyes of the Onlookers." That mean what is Art for me won't be for the next guys. That said, i believe game are, and are right there with Literature. Different thing for different people, i guess. I can't stand Picasso but love Salvatore Dali. Can you blame me?
I don't listen to music to have a "emotional response", and still a "beat" does nothing for me. So, yeah... I'll leave it at that...Vrach said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwPEdp70VSEAssassin Xaero said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MXGIIH93ro&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PldfoVlsz8o&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l8Gbo8P6dg - just to show beat also allows for fantastic emotional response... again, sadly, you'd need to know the language :\
If you understand the language (sadly 'tis unlikely) and don't illicit an emotional response to any of those 4 songs (particularly the third), I'd pretty much class you off as a psychopath (mean that in the literal sense of the word, not as an insult
OT: Agree most with whoever said to give a definition of art that doesn't involve subjectivity, but in the spirit of the question/thread, I'd say Syberia and Syberia 2. I'd also agree with one of the above posters on Grim Fandango (played a bit through it again recently-ish, sadly not to the end due to crashing issues
Also, really, see Extra Credits on horror games (since fear is an emotion and therefore scary pictures/movies/games are art) they summarize it perfectly, games are the best medium for it cause you virtually walk into fear yourself and not just have it shown to you, you're part of the experience.
Well, it's not so much 1 game as it is 4 games (hence the word "quadrilogy"). They're some of the freeware games that Yahtzee made. Their names are, in the order they're intended to be played: 5 Days a Stranger, 7 Days a Skeptic, Trilby's Notes, and 6 Days a Sacrifice. They're really quite good. You should check them out.zombiejoe said:
