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pdgeorge

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Note: If the subject of sexual assault/rape is something that upsets you for personal reasons/whatever reasons, please do not read it may upset you.

I was reading some random thing on the internet, a feminists blog was talking about "...calling sexual assault against men what it is... rape" and it got me thinking about the whole situation.
First: The topic I'm bringing up is men who are sexualy abused by women and peoples views on it, originating from feminists comments about it.
Second: I checked out the rules sorry if I missed something but I didn't see that this sort of topic was against the rules.

Anyway back on topic... The feminists opinion was to bring awareness of sexual assault against males up and try and say "they need more sympathy!". The way it was explained by her was along the standard "rape is a horrible thing, victims of it are victims and never get over it etc. etc." (yes rape is a horrible thing, but victims will never get over it if they are constantly reminded they are victims and that its a huge thing in their life.) I know multiple people, including myself who have been sexualy assaulted/raped, some it strongly affected, others just moved on.

One of the comments that shocked me was (sumarised) "Men don't report it or get upset about it because they don't believe women can be sexualy aggressive and they can't be victims" and I just found that disguisting. The first part may be true, men don't report it because they feel it is an emasculating experience, but the way it was worded was along the lines "You guys arn't the only ones that can rape the other gender you know! When a girl gets raped it ruins her life, but when a guy gets raped he gets over it! THATS NOT FAIR!". Of course also having the idea that "a guy that says 'alright I got laid!' is wrong, he is just hurt and doesn't know how to react" was stated. Personally depending on the situation of what happened, I would say (and I even did say) "Eugh... not comfortable... but I atleast got some" thinking more on a positive note, later I just forgot about it because I treated it like such a non-issue at the time. (Before anyone says "what happened musn't have been bad" it was two girls I was extremely turned off by (in every sence) and at the time I was a staunch christian saying "no sex before marriage" nothing huge, but something that still was well and truely in the 'sexual assault' catagory)

For the guys: how do you think you would react if you were sexualy assaulted?
Everyone: Do you believe it's understandable for people to be able to just say "meh" and move on from a situation like that? or does being sexualy assaulted, whether you enjoyed it or not, always mean psychological trauma.
 

Vanguard_Ex

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xChevelle24 said:
You can't rape the willing.
Most men are willing.

Therefore, you can't rape men.
You listen to this man. He has wisdom far beyond his years. I assume.
 

sky14kemea

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it depends how you handle it mentally, although im sure it'd be extremely hard to just shrug it off completely...
pdgeorge said:
"Men don't report it or get upset about it because they don't believe women can be sexualy aggressive and they can't be victims"
yeah i dont believe that one bit, i think it has the same traumatic effect on either gender :(
 

Cpt_Oblivious

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My only experience of male rape is from Peep Show. That seemed pretty traumatising.

Just because it's a minority occurrence, doesn't mean it doesn't happen and it's not equally bad.
 

goatzilla8463

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Feelings shouldn't weigh you down.

Get rid of feelings and you should be perfect.

I must admit I have feelings, as little as they are, and am not perfect as I like to think.
 

pdgeorge

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xChevelle24 said:
You can't rape the willing.
Most men are willing.

Therefore, you can't rape men.
Most men are willing in general for most girls who score a... 4 or above lets say. (yes I'm a horrible person for ranking women)

but when a girl is a 3 or below... who drops one or two points when she gets naked, you arn't willing.
I still love the idea of "all men are willing", I would like to go out with a group of guys who say that and then introduce them to a bevy of ugly but willing girls. See how true to their word they stay
 

ThrobbingEgo

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xChevelle24 said:
You can't rape the willing.
Most men are willing.

Therefore, you can't rape men.
*Clears throat*

Not all men are man-whores, who will jump at the chance to have sex with whoever. I can think of a few women who, if they wanted to have sex with me, I'd probably decline. (Those women aren't ugly or disease ridden, I just don't like them.)

But, hey, go ahead and reduce a gender to a stereotype.
 

teisjm

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For the guy question I think it would depend on what/how it happened.
If i was dildo'ed in the rear end by a female rapist (or raped by another guy) i think i would have ahard time getting over it.
If it was a woman who assaulted me, tied me down and fucked me in a more normal way (my penis her vagina) I think i would have a lot less trouble with coping with it.

I think people whould do whatever they need to do to get over it. If they can say "Meh" and move on then good for them, they should just do whatever they need to do. And they don't have to justify them feeling good or bad to anyone else unless they want to.

I do think theres a bigger chance of a guy saying "oh well, wtf i did actually get laid" if he was raped by a girl than if it was the other way around. Not that it justifies raping guys in any way.
 

vanguard_anon

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I guess being raped by a women would be pretty traumatizing and humiliating. Having said that, I think I'd prove to be a pretty hard target for nearly any women.

On the other hand, I know of a guy that was tied up with phone cord and raped by several men. He's never been "right in the head" since. That would be far harder for me to get over.
 

scotth266

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xChevelle24 said:
You can't rape the willing.
Most men are willing.

Therefore, you can't rape most men.
I added the bold part: so now your post is correct. Death to generalizations!

I think that it's totally possible to be sexually assaulted by a woman: but it's far less likely and probably not reported much at all due to fears about being mocked for it.
 

Zersy

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xChevelle24 said:
You can't rape the willing.
Most men are willing.

Therefore, you can't rape men.
Seriously how come all your comments on all the Threads always Epic and full of wisdom ?

it's so awesome that awesome can't define it.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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MaxTheReaper said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
MaxTheReaper said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
But, hey, go ahead and reduce a gender to a stereotype.
And just why the fuck not?
Everyone else does.
Appeal to common practice, anyone?
You do realize I actually agree with you, and was just venting my frustration at the fact that most people seem to reduce all persons with a penis to the "so horny will fuck anything" stereotype, right?
Yeah, I realize. I just wanted to shout "APPEAL TO COMMON PRACTICE!"

Comically speaking, I should have written it like that. Meh.
 

Anachronism

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MaxTheReaper said:
I think, though, that it's always traumatizing.
Agreed. I don't see why rape, even by a woman, would be any less traumatising for a man than it would be for a woman, to be honest. There might be men who would use it as an opportunity to say "I got laid!", but unless they're deeply messed up anyway, I doubt they'd actually have enjoyed it. I can safely say I would be traumatised by such an experience.

Admittedly, it would be much more difficult for a woman to rape a man than the other way around, but it could happen, and I don't think being taken advantage of is a pleasant experience, no matter what the situation.
Cpt_Oblivious said:
Just because it's a minority occurrence, doesn't mean it doesn't happen and it's not equally bad.
This works quite well as a summary of what I think.
 

Zersy

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I would obviously not like it but i think i will be able to shake it off

hmmm this is actually a hard question really....