Villians that weren't actually doing anything Illegal.
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The colossi in SotC. They were just minding their business until you invaded their territory, climbed on their head and went all stabby stabby.
I know, but I didn't expect everyone on the internet to understand such long words, that's why I put "bad guys" within quotation marks.SuperMse said:
...oh woops, just noticed, I quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote one about Diablo and his brothers. Sorry DXAgayek said:
Eragon took so many plot devices from Star Wars, to the point where I began being surprised when something original was used.Jaythulhu said:
On topic, I would say that Adrian Viedt from Watchmen was an excellent example of an ambiguous villan. He made himself out as a hero, before it turns out he's planning something incredibly evil, but it turns out that he actually saves the rest of the world.
Free will doesn't exist. Our actions are either predetermined by the law of cause and effect or random.StBishop said:
Ryan wasn't a villain OR a criminal? Let's see, all went well until Frank Fontaine got the drop on Ryan with plasmid technology and suddenly the Great Chain wasn't pulling in Ryan's direction any more. He got pissed off, had Fontaine whacked and nationalised (since he essentially was the government, you can go ahead and say 'stole') Fontaine Futuristics. I'm not even going to start talking about all the crazy shit Suchong as up to that Ryan had apparently sanctioned, and by the time the player encounters Ryan he's mind-controlling legions of his own citizens as a private army of pheromone-led zombies. I'm pretty sure making slaves of Rapture citizens was against the city's charter if the propaganda announcements were anything to go by. Assuming he didn't take the time to go to court once the fire breathing teleporting wall crawlers showed up then he broke the highest law of his own land all over the place.DracoSuave said:
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Yes, anyway. Hmm. 'Villains' who were just doing their jobs? I suppose the Vogons in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy count- yes, they blew up the Earth and every living thing on it five minutes it spat out the Question to the Ultimate Answer, but really, the planning statement had been available at our local office in Alpha Centauri and we had plenty of time to lodge an objection.
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It's not illegal to commit suicide... Who was the last person you heard got arrested for commuting suicide? Perhaps you're confusing it with mortal sin? It's illegal to assist someone committing suicide though.Scary_Bob said:He committed suicide didn't he?fwelord said:
My vote goes to Darth Vader... He was under order of the Emporer after all.
Any and all of the enimies in The World Ends With You. All of them were just doing their jobs, what Mr. Kitanishi was doing seemed... Fucked up to say the least, was for the good of everyone. I'm not going to go on in fear of spoilers.
Edgeworth and Franzisca von Karma in Phoenix Wright, yes, I went there.
Team _____ in the pokemon games, they are using the Pokemon to their benefit, just like you.
Edgeworth and Franzisca von Karma in Phoenix Wright, yes, I went there.
Team _____ in the pokemon games, they are using the Pokemon to their benefit, just like you.
Actually, up until about 1960 it was illegal to commit suicide in the UK. Those that failed in the attempt would then be arrested. Not certain whether it was in other parts of Europe, but for humour's sake, let's say it was.ravens_nest said:It's not illegal to commit suicide... Who was the last person you heard got arrested for commuting suicide? Perhaps you're confusing it with mortal sin? It's illegal to assist someone committing suicide though.Scary_Bob said:He committed suicide didn't he?fwelord said:
Edit: After a little bit of research, turns out suicide was legal in Nazi Germany. I hereby withdraw my vote for Hitler.
StBishop said:
The Devil's Advocate side of me says that, no, Dictators AREN'T breaking the laws of their own country, and that this so called "International Law" is just other countries trying to press their moralistic thoughts upon unwilling countries. There technically is no law that says taking a life is wrong that doesn't have SOME exceptions to it's application. In most countries, shooting someone is murder, but if you are a soldier for your country, it's ok as long as the one you shoot is considered an enemy.
A right is only a right if you can seize it, rights are not given, they're taken.