VVVVVV Creator Infringes Own Copyright

[fix-the-spade]

According to Terry Cavanagh's twitter, the claim was made by a firm called Indmusic.

At least he didn't get up and find his account had gone from no claims to closed in one hour like WatchMojo did.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these auto claims are really a scam by copyright holders to avoid paying their creators royalties. Once the claim is filed they get the money that would be going to the creator for as long as that claim is in place and it's on the creator's head to get it sorted out. They can plead ignorance that it's Youtube's fault, but at the end they've got the money and the other guy has little recourse to get it back.

 

[BloodSquirrel]

Yep, the same thing happened to Gav of Miracle of Sound. Youtube's operators should be embarrassed. They need to fix this pronto, and then fire the dyslexic orangutans who designed this system in the first place.

That would be the Federal Government, who passed a law that was so heavily weighted in favor of big copyright holders that it's a lot safer for sites like Youtube to take things down first and ask questions later.

 

[Olas]

Yep, the same thing happened to Gav of Miracle of Sound. Youtube's operators should be embarrassed. They need to fix this pronto, and then fire the dyslexic orangutans who designed this system in the first place.

That would be the Federal Government, who passed a law that was so heavily weighted in favor of big copyright holders that it's a lot safer for sites like Youtube to take things down first and ask questions later.

No, by system I mean the updated Youtube algorithms that automatically flag things as infringing copyright without even checking to see if the video's creator is the original copyright holder. You can blame outdated laws for SOME of the problems surrounding this copyright enforcement, but not for this.

The problem isn't that Youtube flags first and asks questions later, it's that they flag and then don't ask questions at all. No humans are involved in this process and once a video has been flagged it's nearly impossible to reach Youtube to get it sorted out.

 

[DarkSeraphim02]

And shit like this is part of why I'm scared to death to monitize any of my videos, Though I doubt keeping my videos non-profit will matter much in the end.
Youtubes copyright system is far too automated and lacks any form of oversight.
I have nothing against protection of copyright but jesus. You know the saying "the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing"? In Youtubes case it's almost as if the right hand is actively attacking the left, and anytime the left tries to talk about it the right just ignores it.

I know it's unrealistic to ask them to have a person, or rather a large team check every video uploaded, but they should really iron the system out and give the damn bots a set of priorities instead of taking this "shoot em all and let God sort em out" approach.

I like Youtube and spend a lot of time watching various videos and listening to music on it, but monopoly or no, they really need to stop screwing over their users with poorly implemented systems. I imagine since this whole imbroglio cuts into peoples livings that Youtube, and Google, are probably going to get sued at least once.

Of course me being the massive cynic that I am, I assume Google/Youtube knows what legal loopholes to play to avoid such things, which, I'm guessing, is part of why they would even think of pulling a dick move of this scale.

 

[Requia]

Yeah, this whole "We just kind of assumed we held the copyright on that" has been a recurring problem. Copyright laws really need to be fixed.

It's got nothing to do with the law, the law doesn't require copyright claims from bots to be paid any attention too, this is *entirely* Google.

 

[Hurrly]

Shit is getting out of hand. Youtube better be working 24/7 to fix this shit, or else they'll lose people and never get them back.

Yeah, as far as I've heard, it's not happening.

Apparently they sent an email out that effectively said "this is the new content ID system. Deal with it."

Cr1tiKal talked a little bit about it. Google and YouTube effectively have a monopoly, so they can do whatever the fuck they want. And we're seeing them do it more and more lately.

New streaming sites could emerge from this debalcle that will make it easier for users to avoid these complications.
Looking at the integrated streaming for twitch it may take off as the place for gamers to see the videos they want.
This could lead to alot of people leaving youtube and moving on to the next big thing. It seems like youtube is setting itslef up to at least loose alot of viewers if not be overtaken by the next big site for videos.