Wait Wait don't tell me apologizes to Bronies, mocks itself

[SillyBear]

This issue stems to an inability to accept feminine males in society.

This.

I loved it when NPR had a go at them. It was clearly tongue in cheek and if you feel persecuted over that you are a fucking cry baby. Imagine being someone who gets actually persecuted about something important. You'd explode.

You "bronies" do watch a show aimed at little girls and the show is about ponies. You can bloody well expect to encounter some ribbing. Stop acting like little girls. NPR shouldn't have to apologise at all.

You seem to think this issue doesn't matter at all and that men should stop acting like girls. But you know what? I'm never gonna stop acting like a girl, because I'm an incredibly feminine male. You should grow up and realize not everyone conforms to the rigid social gender norms.

Your reading comprehension isn't great, is it? You should notice I use the word little before the word girl. I don't care if you act like a girl. It is a problem if you act like a 5 year old girl though.

And yes, I don't believe adults should be acting like little girls. I also don't believe adults should start crying and act like absolute babies because their TV show got teased. It's pathetic and makes you look ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many truly persecuted groups of people there are out there? It's a joke and if you watch MLP you can expect to encounter ribbing. Everyone gets teased about something, grow a skin and deal with it. If you like the show, why the hell do you care if NPR said MLP fans live with their parents in the basement?

Sorry, I was trying to extract a greater point out of your argument. I agree, people shouldn't act like children. What NPR said brings light upon the issue of the real persecution of males into a forced gender stereotype. I've been living with this issue my whole life, don't fucking tell me this isn't a real issue. The implications of the ignorance of NPR creates a greater problem. It reinforces the stereotypes that exist today in society by assuming that anyone that watching female focused shows is a repressed manchild or something similar. Actually, males can happy and easily live a feminine life and belittling those that do live in such a way is discrimination.

I don't really want to be the one to tell you this, but this world you are talking about, this world where no gender roles exist and no one is judged for what they choose to do in their free time will never exist. Never. Not in fifty years and not in a thousand years.

Even the most progressive and forward thinking culture is still a human culture. Gender roles change, they don't disappear. Stereotypes change, they don't disappear. People who do something that is considered to be different are always going to encounter scorn from the general populous. The reason for this is biological. Conformity creates better results for a collective. It creates a hive mind with a single focus and a single will - it creates an entity that is extremely productive. Look at the army. Conformity and scorning difference was an important part in humans forming their first communities. It's in our evolution. You can't get rid of it with good will, it's always going to happen to some extent.

And if "some extent" means you get laughed at every so often for watching a little girls TV show, then you should count yourself fucking lucky. At least you aren't being chase down and beaten to death. So stop taking yourself seriously.

You need to stop taking yourself and your life so seriously. You watch a really camp show aimed at prepubescent little girls. That is going to get you laughed at every now and then. Just accept the fact that it is a little weird and it is funny and laugh along with it.

So black men are unemployed, lazy, loudmouthed, uneducated gangbangers? No. A stereotype (in all instances) is wrong REGARDLESS of "validity" or connotations. Period. You defend one stereotype, you defend them all.

Statistically they are more likely to commit more crime, will have a poorer education and a worse job so a stereotype is simply an exaggerated generalisation of the truth.

That's because we black people are statistically more likely to live in areas with a higher crime rate, poor education and a bad job market. We are also more statistically likely to live below the US poverty line. It's got nothing to do with our melanin levels, it's got to do with the hang backs from out previous treatment in society. This will all even out, and in fact it already is evening out.

I hope you realise this, and you aren't just being a massive racist.

 

[Jimbo1212]

Yet those same pitfalls are because of the society's pitfalls. The idea of an uneducated, brutish black man stems from the days of slavery, and certain shows put on by white men painted with black paint. We took everything that has connotations with lower evolution, and applied it to a different group of people often for no actual reason. America had racism from the past, as did Europe and that is where the stereotypes stem from. They are almost never founded on truth, but what we want to believe is true for various reasons. When we take those beliefs, we tend to force the minority into such a tight space that the stereotype becomes reality. Its not founded in basic truth, its founded on subjective views of society (we made it a reality, a changing synthetic truth only held together by the will of the society). Even though people like to think racism is no longer a problem, its still there. The effects of the old days of racism is still around.

You keep saying statistics but fail to grasp what I am really saying. You say its a basic truth, I say its only a truth because of the way society still functions under the old ways of racism and human psychology. Statistics don't factor into it, its what lead to that result.

What the hell are you on about? You need to go away and learn some facts as you are just wrong. The black and white minstrels was simply a show and what does that have to do with blacks committing more crime and doing worse at school? This is not a stereotype but a fact, therefore the rough stereotype is an exaggeration and generalisation of fact. Anyway, it is a stupid point to try to argue as every type of person has been enslaved and suppressed at some point so why are Africans so special?
Offence at stereotypes is only taken when there is truth in them eg. basement dwelling nerds. From my experience this is not always true, but more often the not, it is for those who are into strange fads, hence why they get pissy when it is mentioned. If there was no truth in it, then people would laugh it off as being stupid rather then complaining.

 

[Jimbo1212]

That's because we black people are statistically more likely to live in areas with a higher crime rate, poor education and a bad job market. We are also more statistically likely to live below the US poverty line. It's got nothing to do with our melanin levels, it's got to do with the hang backs from out previous treatment in society. This will all even out, and in fact it already is evening out.

I hope you realise this, and you aren't just being a massive racist.

You are aware that I am not talking about just the USA thus those factors do not always come into it. You also have the issue that this only happens to blacks, when other more poor ethnic groups do not commit as much crime and do better in school even if they are in the same areas or worse. Anyway, PM me if you want to talk about this more.

Its amazing how you miss the biggest point that I constantly have to explain to you and call me wrong. reread the points again, slowly this time instead of skimming through the post. Its the way society is set up that only enforces stereotypes and is directly a result of old lingering racism which in turn is mostly a reaction from evolutionary traits and nationalism carried on throughout time.

But that is wrong. Look at the Chinese stereotype of being smart and successful. Even though it is a stereotype it is quite accurate as Asians tend to do better in schools then any other nationality. Stereotypes are simply wide spread generalisations, thus they will be built around some form of truth, rather then ' how society is setup'.......what ever that means......
Again, PM me as this is getting quite off topic.

 

[Jimbo1212]

That's because we black people are statistically more likely to live in areas with a higher crime rate, poor education and a bad job market. We are also more statistically likely to live below the US poverty line. It's got nothing to do with our melanin levels, it's got to do with the hang backs from out previous treatment in society. This will all even out, and in fact it already is evening out.

I hope you realise this, and you aren't just being a massive racist.

You are aware that I am not talking about just the USA thus those factors do not always come into it. You also have the issue that this only happens to blacks, when other more poor ethnic groups do not commit as much crime and do better in school even if they are in the same areas or worse. Anyway, PM me if you want to talk about this more.

Its amazing how you miss the biggest point that I constantly have to explain to you and call me wrong. reread the points again, slowly this time instead of skimming through the post. Its the way society is set up that only enforces stereotypes and is directly a result of old lingering racism which in turn is mostly a reaction from evolutionary traits and nationalism carried on throughout time.

But that is wrong. Look at the Chinese stereotype of being smart and successful. Even though it is a stereotype it is quite accurate as Asians tend to do better in schools then any other nationality. Stereotypes are simply wide spread generalisations, thus they will be built around some form of truth, rather then ' how society is setup'.......what ever that means......
Again, PM me as this is getting quite off topic.

The Chinese have held education in high regard, and have done so for centuries. Again, society itself creates the stereotypes and not the minority.

Proof that you do not read my replies.
PM me to carry on.