Talk about hitting the nail on the head. This amply sums up the very issue of what I always say about piracy. The cause is elsewhere. This is only the effect.Aggieknight said:
Walking Dead Producer: Piracy's Pushing Content Creators To 'The Precipice'
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The amusing thing is that Google sort of tries to tailor your search results to you. So maybe she's just been surfing too many pirate sites so Google's code is helping her out.Plunkies said:
Most of these HBO (or whatever) shows just kind of sit in limbo for me. I don't watch enough to be paying for the premium channels, and with no actual means to gauge interest, I don't have any incentive to throw down 30+ dollars on the DVDs or go hunting for download options of any sort.
No like the record lables crying about Napster back in the day they need to wake the fuck up stop being such greedy old fucking farts and evolve with the times. When the FREE PIRATES offer a better service the the one you paying out the ass for......its not the consumers fault or even googles, they fuck themselves over constantly by churning out crap and then telling us we should be greatful. Fuck that and fuck them. Give ppl an option or stop crying. Pick one. its 2014 its the internet is the norm now. region locking is retarded.
Here in the UK you can only get Game of Thrones if you have Sky.+ TV License for one show in a sea of constant repeats and bullshit. I mean ffs there is a TV show here where you watch ppl watching fucking TV. TV License is like £120+ a year then your monthly Sky sub £40+ ?........
Here in the UK you can only get Game of Thrones if you have Sky.+ TV License for one show in a sea of constant repeats and bullshit. I mean ffs there is a TV show here where you watch ppl watching fucking TV. TV License is like £120+ a year then your monthly Sky sub £40+ ?........
Are there any statistics on the actual effect piracy is having on sales? Most people I know who pirate say they just wouldn't bother watching it otherwise. Either because they don't buy DVDs, subscribe to cable, or work their lives around being able to catch something when it airs. I mean, yeah, sales are going down across the board, but most of that can be attributed to the wider range of options people have for their entertainment. Things has changed significantly since Gale Ann Hurd broke out in the entertainment industry.
I cleaned out my room in the last week and realized that I have about 1000 dvd's.
If I see something I like I buy the dvd for it because I like the higher resolutions and dvd extras.
So... why should I be made to feel like an asshole for wanting to see things as they are released (and hence not get them spoiled) when if it's any good I go and buy it later anyway...
Piracy isn't hurting the content creators that badly, it's just making it accessible somewhere that a monopoly on distribution methods is being enforced.
Know how much it cost to see Game of Thrones in Australia? $49 an episode on Foxtel.
What other methods are there of legally watching it for the next year? None.
It's a joke.
We just got Season 3 in February.
Also that's something popular, you should talk to our sci fi girls who want their hit of Supernatural, they are years and years out of date.
If I see something I like I buy the dvd for it because I like the higher resolutions and dvd extras.
So... why should I be made to feel like an asshole for wanting to see things as they are released (and hence not get them spoiled) when if it's any good I go and buy it later anyway...
Piracy isn't hurting the content creators that badly, it's just making it accessible somewhere that a monopoly on distribution methods is being enforced.
Know how much it cost to see Game of Thrones in Australia? $49 an episode on Foxtel.
What other methods are there of legally watching it for the next year? None.
It's a joke.
We just got Season 3 in February.
Also that's something popular, you should talk to our sci fi girls who want their hit of Supernatural, they are years and years out of date.
Where I live you have to pay close to $100 a month to watch Game of Thrones on foxtel, I don't even think The Walking Dead is available here in any legitimate way! Hell, we can't even watch most of our national sport because channel 7 is so stingy and have to pay almost $50 to watch the other games (which are normally much better than the free to air with no craptastic commentary!). If they want us to stop pirating (I think Australia was #1 in the world for pirating Game of Thrones) give it to us at a reasonable price!
I also googled House of Cards and Netflix was the eight result, I can't even watch Netflix here!
I also googled House of Cards and Netflix was the eight result, I can't even watch Netflix here!
I don't agree with pircacey generally
but then they want to fucking PUNISH people for pirateing Game of Thones in Australia...a country that has no netflix, no legit way of seeing the shows they want first...except for Foxtel
well thats bullshit
but then they want to fucking PUNISH people for pirateing Game of Thones in Australia...a country that has no netflix, no legit way of seeing the shows they want first...except for Foxtel
well thats bullshit
First thing: content creators is a blanket term. When we're talking about TV shows, it could actually be a serious problem. In my opinion, because the distributors aren't making it easy or convenient enough. That's not entitlement, we're in an age where you can access content you like within a minute and in your own time, and cable companies still think people want to shell out for a contract that gives them a mixture of content they don't necessarily want. I'd like to see substantiation, as well, by the way. It's not enough to tell me something is happening when we see about the most pirated thing since merchant vessels, Game of Thrones, doing pretty damn well.
Second thing: Will, won't. Eventually. She's not saying this situation has happened now, and therefore, can't say with any certainty that it will ever happen. I am of the mind that shows on Netflix and similar services will continue to do as well as they do now.
Third thing: I get Netflix as about the seventh link when I search House of Cards, and it's pages before I get to a stream or torrent. Don't know what she's on about there.
Fourth thing: Australia.
Second thing: Will, won't. Eventually. She's not saying this situation has happened now, and therefore, can't say with any certainty that it will ever happen. I am of the mind that shows on Netflix and similar services will continue to do as well as they do now.
Third thing: I get Netflix as about the seventh link when I search House of Cards, and it's pages before I get to a stream or torrent. Don't know what she's on about there.
Fourth thing: Australia.
The problem that strikes me every day with these big popular shows is simply a lack of availability.
I live in Australia, so I can't watch it (and other shows) when it first airs in the US, the problem is that I play several MMORPGs and MOBAs, have lot's of friends from the US and Canada that I talk to every day, not to mention the amount of people from around the world I have on social media.
Basically my options are:
A. Drop my entire life, don't log onto Mumble/vent, don't log on or even look at twitter, facebook, tumblr, don't play games that have a chat box, metaphorically put my hands over my ears and start singing row, row, row your boat, until it airs in Australia and I can watch it spoiler free.
B. Torrent it as soon as it's finished airing (usually available within 30 mins) and watch it straight away and continue on with whatever else I had planned for the day.
If they didn't want high profile shows like GoT and TWD to be pirated, all it would take is for them to stream it online for a small cost ($1.99 or whatever) at the same time that it airs on TV or make it purchasable online at a small price as soon as it airs.
If they did either one of those things, I'd happily shell out 2 or 3 bucks to watch it at the same time other people do so I don't have it ruined before it airs here.
It is exactly what Gaben has said in the past, it's about convenience... when the choices are avoid everything online for 24+ hours (up to months and years) and watch it with 12 3 minute ad breaks or watch it ad free 30 minutes after it airs meaning you can go about business as usual, the choice is easy.
It doesn't help that our shithouse current government trashed the entire National Broadband Network (from 100/40 Fibre to the premises to 93% of the population down to a non-guaranteed 25/5 "multi technology mix" that still uses COPPER to less than 65% of the population) meaning our chances of getting any decent streaming services, like netflix, are slim at best.
I live in Australia, so I can't watch it (and other shows) when it first airs in the US, the problem is that I play several MMORPGs and MOBAs, have lot's of friends from the US and Canada that I talk to every day, not to mention the amount of people from around the world I have on social media.
Basically my options are:
A. Drop my entire life, don't log onto Mumble/vent, don't log on or even look at twitter, facebook, tumblr, don't play games that have a chat box, metaphorically put my hands over my ears and start singing row, row, row your boat, until it airs in Australia and I can watch it spoiler free.
B. Torrent it as soon as it's finished airing (usually available within 30 mins) and watch it straight away and continue on with whatever else I had planned for the day.
If they didn't want high profile shows like GoT and TWD to be pirated, all it would take is for them to stream it online for a small cost ($1.99 or whatever) at the same time that it airs on TV or make it purchasable online at a small price as soon as it airs.
If they did either one of those things, I'd happily shell out 2 or 3 bucks to watch it at the same time other people do so I don't have it ruined before it airs here.
It is exactly what Gaben has said in the past, it's about convenience... when the choices are avoid everything online for 24+ hours (up to months and years) and watch it with 12 3 minute ad breaks or watch it ad free 30 minutes after it airs meaning you can go about business as usual, the choice is easy.
It doesn't help that our shithouse current government trashed the entire National Broadband Network (from 100/40 Fibre to the premises to 93% of the population down to a non-guaranteed 25/5 "multi technology mix" that still uses COPPER to less than 65% of the population) meaning our chances of getting any decent streaming services, like netflix, are slim at best.
nb foxtel is garbage , its like comcast from south park but in real life , expensive as all heck too.Vault101 said:
Well, she says there's a huge shortage of money but who's telling her that? The head guys at AMC obviously.
So, let me ask you guys something. What if the head guys at AMC are lying to her in order to look like the victim and get more money?
Just a thought.
So, let me ask you guys something. What if the head guys at AMC are lying to her in order to look like the victim and get more money?
Just a thought.
It's not that simple.Sanunes said:
Let's say that the piracy apologists are right, and increasing the general audience's size with pirates, leads to increased word of mouth, and more legit viewers as well, enough to change ratings for the better.
In that case, there would STILL be a number of shows that just fail to turn a profit, because that's how an economy works, there must always be a marginal value, and someone inevitably has to hang just around the margin.
It's the same deal as with appealing to the poor indie game developers who are starving due to piracy: Are some developers earning less than others? Yes. Are we living in a golden age of gaming, where more studios, an individuals earn more money than ever before? Yes.
You can't treat piracy as a huge problem, just because you could theoretically imagine the industry being even bigger, than it's current vital and quickly growing self.
At best, free culture is actively leading people into fandoms, and making them end up paying for more entertainment, but IP holders want to end this just so they can more directly control the public.
And even at worst, if it isn't really helpful or beneficial, we are only talking about some freeloaders getting their own benefit from what is already a huge boom for others anyways, it's like having your whole house turn into solid gold by magic, and then yelling at psserbies for stealing your also golden mailbox.
One of my truest held beliefs is the idea that free expression of culture and ideas is so important to the growth of humanity as a whole, that to restrict it in any form, including behind pay walls, is detrimental to our growth as a species. Through the information age humans have developed a wider understanding of themselves and a wider array of, truly, thoughts. Our minds have been expanded, and artistic expression is one of the key factors behind it. Humans share their ideas and culture through art, and it is through that that humans will find their "salvation". That is why I believe a person should attempt to expand their mind in any way they can, including piracy if need be. Stanley Kubrick's The Shining changed my life with the points it makes and the thoughts it sowed in my mind. Straight up, the world would be a better place if every human had the opportunity to experience the human experience through art as in depth as they could were it freely accessible. Luckily, due to the beauties of the information age, it is.
Also, I must add that artists making a living is important, I support paying for art that touches you if you can.
Also, I must add that artists making a living is important, I support paying for art that touches you if you can.
Amazon possibly to purchase a legit copy?Count_A said:
Just because a library is lacking, doesn't mean you get to steal it man. You have numerous options to find what it is you want. It might not be in the format you wish, but don't forget that as special as the customer might think they are sometimes, they are NEVER entitled to theft.
Truth. I find that very often (especially true in politics), people with a lot of power relative to you and I who really, really want something done will cite justifications for which that have no proof, generally it's just something someone told them that they accepted at face value, or it's a deliberate lie because they know they have more ability to disseminate nonsense than you or I do to combat it with, you know, facts. (FWIW, I think Gale Ann Hurd falls in the former camp. I think she doesn't know WTF she's talking about.) Since our wonderful politicians are so often really, really out of touch - I mean seriously, does anyone really believe Verizon's bullshit claim that they have to destroy net neutrality because disabled people? - it's easy to get policy made that vast, vast majorities of people hate. I feel like GAH was giving the same spiel she'd give at a fundraiser to a sympathetic legislator or the President.Plunkies said:
What I find disturbing however, isn't that a hollywood bigwig thinks the solution to their perceived financial woes is to destroy consumer rights. It's that in the original Guardian interview, the interviewer just let her make that bullshit claim without questioning further. I mean seriously, has he even used the Internet before ever? Journalistic malpractice IMO.