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I guess I haven't been keeping up with the news but today I saw in the news that hundreds of Wall Street protesters were arrested. I went on YouTube and watched some police brutality in relation to those arrests. I learned that this Wall Street protest thing has been going on for awhile.

Has the revolution begun?
 

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Christing Jesus balls, can people stop protesting? It really holds up traffic, guys. Think of the good of the people.
 

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Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Sounds like a protest. The 60s would be proud if it remembered that decade.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
 

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Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
Not exactly. In London, they were reacting angrily to a police shooting, and it was serious business, with the police holding back for fear of escalating a situation the whole world was talking about.

In the US, they are peacefully protesting about the economic situation, but nobody cares, the media isn't making a fuss so the police can be as heavy handed as they want.
 

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has the revolution begun? No, no it has not. there is no revolution. This is people pissed off at the wealthy cause they got screwed even though in the end its many of their own fault. Though I get a particular laugh when a devout conservative republican protests, acting like a political party change is going to magically turn the US's financial crisis into a surplus of unknown and unprecedented magnitude.

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TL;DR its pissed off people using their right to free speech. Good to see in the US, but its not exactly earth shaking.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
Not exactly. In London, they were reacting angrily to a police shooting, and it was serious business, with the police holding back for fear of escalating a situation the whole world was talking about.

In the US, they are peacefully protesting about the economic situation, but nobody cares, the media isn't making a fuss so the police can be as heavy handed as they want.
This could easily turn ugly because so far there is no shortage of police brutality.
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Haven't even heard of it. Link to any articles at all?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/01/business/wall-street-protests/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn
 

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The protest was brought to head today because 700 people[from last report] had been arrested, they were taking drastic action to be noticed. There has been a media blackout on them, until the unwarranted pepper spraying of protesters, before there had been people being arrested for wearing masks. But the pepper spray got some attention, and they stormed the Brooklyn Bridge walking on the pedestrian path, but they were being guided by cops into the street and then that's when the arrests started happening according to reports.
 

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Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
Not exactly. In London, they were reacting angrily to a police shooting, and it was serious business, with the police holding back for fear of escalating a situation the whole world was talking about.

In the US, they are peacefully protesting about the economic situation, but nobody cares, the media isn't making a fuss so the police can be as heavy handed as they want.
This could easily turn ugly because so far there is no shortage of police brutality.
Police brutality is almost irrelevant. Sure, it can make people angry, which is what is needed to escalate a situation like this, but only if it is viewed as a big deal.

Now, with a lack of media coverage, there's nobody able to stir up the sort of collective outrage you need to kick things off. Once you see it on every news station, and you get uninformed people making sweeping statements and generalisations, then you get the popcorn.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
Not exactly. In London, they were reacting angrily to a police shooting, and it was serious business, with the police holding back for fear of escalating a situation the whole world was talking about.

In the US, they are peacefully protesting about the economic situation, but nobody cares, the media isn't making a fuss so the police can be as heavy handed as they want.
This could easily turn ugly because so far there is no shortage of police brutality.
Police brutality is almost irrelevant. Sure, it can make people angry, which is what is needed to escalate a situation like this, but only if it is viewed as a big deal.

Now, with a lack of media coverage, there's nobody able to stir up the sort of collective outrage you need to kick things off. Once you see it on every news station, and you get uninformed people making sweeping statements and generalisations, then you get the popcorn.
I've already seen police brutality videos on YouTube. Everyone has a camera in their pockets these days.
 

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Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
Not exactly. In London, they were reacting angrily to a police shooting, and it was serious business, with the police holding back for fear of escalating a situation the whole world was talking about.

In the US, they are peacefully protesting about the economic situation, but nobody cares, the media isn't making a fuss so the police can be as heavy handed as they want.
This could easily turn ugly because so far there is no shortage of police brutality.[/quote

Police brutality is almost irrelevant. Sure, it can make people angry, which is what is needed to escalate a situation like this, but only if it is viewed as a big deal.

Now, with a lack of media coverage, there's nobody able to stir up the sort of collective outrage you need to kick things off. Once you see it on every news station, and you get uninformed people making sweeping statements and generalisations, then you get the popcorn.
]
thaluikhain said:
I've already seen police brutality videos on YouTube. Everyone has a camera in their pockets these days.
True, but it seems to be the regular media that counts, you have to hunt around for youtube videos, unless it goes viral.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
has the revolution begun? No, no it has not. there is no revolution. This is people pissed off at the wealthy cause they got screwed even though in the end its many of their own fault. Though I get a particular laugh when a devout conservative republican protests, acting like a political party change is going to magically turn the US's financial crisis into a surplus of unknown and unprecedented magnitude.

...

TL;DR its pissed off people using their right to free speech. Good to see in the US, but its not exactly earth shaking.
I have to agree with this. I think a good chunk of these protesters are doing so irrationally because they're angry. They don't understand the real politics and don't know what they are really talking about, but lashing out against the wealthy for being "corrupt" is a handy recourse, used every time the economy gets shaky.

I'm sure there are people with real issues and who understand the situation, but most of these people are just left-wing nuts.

There was some news footage shown locally in which a Congressman of some sort was trying to talk to the people, telling them there needed to be a change in how the country was run - only for a man in the crowd to shout that he was part of the problem and shouldn't have been there.
 

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thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
thaluikhain said:
Funny how little it's been reported.

But yeah, protesting, people arresting for filming, police using pepper spray on people for no good reason, the usual.
Yeah, maybe I wasn't paying attention or maybe the media just wasn't reporting on this. I don't watch TV but my homepage (igoogle) has a CNN feed and this is the first time I have seen anything about it.

Those riots in London, it's coming to us isn't it?
Not exactly. In London, they were reacting angrily to a police shooting, and it was serious business, with the police holding back for fear of escalating a situation the whole world was talking about.

In the US, they are peacefully protesting about the economic situation, but nobody cares, the media isn't making a fuss so the police can be as heavy handed as they want.
This could easily turn ugly because so far there is no shortage of police brutality.[/quote

Police brutality is almost irrelevant. Sure, it can make people angry, which is what is needed to escalate a situation like this, but only if it is viewed as a big deal.

Now, with a lack of media coverage, there's nobody able to stir up the sort of collective outrage you need to kick things off. Once you see it on every news station, and you get uninformed people making sweeping statements and generalisations, then you get the popcorn.
]
thaluikhain said:
I've already seen police brutality videos on YouTube. Everyone has a camera in their pockets these days.
True, but it seems to be the regular media that counts, you have to hunt around for youtube videos, unless it goes viral.
The mainstream media hasn't counted for a long time but since I did learn about this from CNN, maybe the mainstream media is picking it up. Honestly though, I learn more news from forums like this than I do from the mainstream media. I haven't watched the news in years.
 

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StarCecil said:
emeraldrafael said:
has the revolution begun? No, no it has not. there is no revolution. This is people pissed off at the wealthy cause they got screwed even though in the end its many of their own fault. Though I get a particular laugh when a devout conservative republican protests, acting like a political party change is going to magically turn the US's financial crisis into a surplus of unknown and unprecedented magnitude.

...

TL;DR its pissed off people using their right to free speech. Good to see in the US, but its not exactly earth shaking.
I have to agree with this. I think a good chunk of these protesters are doing so irrationally because they're angry. They don't understand the real politics and don't know what they are really talking about, but lashing out against the wealthy for being "corrupt" is a handy recourse, used every time the economy gets shaky.

I'm sure there are people with real issues and who understand the situation, but most of these people are just left-wing nuts.

There was some news footage shown locally in which a Congressman of some sort was trying to talk to the people, telling them there needed to be a change in how the country was run - only for a man in the crowd to shout that he was part of the problem and shouldn't have been there.
Let me ask you something. Do you think every soldier understands the politics of the war they are fighting?

Now tell me, does it matter?
 

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Crono1973 said:
The mainstream media hasn't counted for a long time but since I did learn about this from CNN, maybe the mainstream media is picking it up. Honestly though, I learn more news from forums like this than I do from the mainstream media. I haven't watched the news in years.
Well, I didn't mean how useful it was in informing people, I might how useful it was for getting people angry about things. Most people don't go research things for themselves.
 

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Crono1973 said:
StarCecil said:
emeraldrafael said:
has the revolution begun? No, no it has not. there is no revolution. This is people pissed off at the wealthy cause they got screwed even though in the end its many of their own fault. Though I get a particular laugh when a devout conservative republican protests, acting like a political party change is going to magically turn the US's financial crisis into a surplus of unknown and unprecedented magnitude.

...

TL;DR its pissed off people using their right to free speech. Good to see in the US, but its not exactly earth shaking.
I have to agree with this. I think a good chunk of these protesters are doing so irrationally because they're angry. They don't understand the real politics and don't know what they are really talking about, but lashing out against the wealthy for being "corrupt" is a handy recourse, used every time the economy gets shaky.

I'm sure there are people with real issues and who understand the situation, but most of these people are just left-wing nuts.

There was some news footage shown locally in which a Congressman of some sort was trying to talk to the people, telling them there needed to be a change in how the country was run - only for a man in the crowd to shout that he was part of the problem and shouldn't have been there.
Let me ask you something. Do you think every soldier understands the politics of the war they are fighting?

Now tell me, does it matter?
That's different. A soldier doesn't have to understand the politics. It's detrimental if they have to take into consideration the political decisions. I certainly don't.

However, if you're going to protest a perceived injustice... shouldn't you understand it?
 

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thaluikhain said:
Crono1973 said:
The mainstream media hasn't counted for a long time but since I did learn about this from CNN, maybe the mainstream media is picking it up. Honestly though, I learn more news from forums like this than I do from the mainstream media. I haven't watched the news in years.
Well, I didn't mean how useful it was in informing people, I might how useful it was for getting people angry about things. Most people don't go research things for themselves.
I think you underestimate the internet. The internet:

- can get people angry about things
- can help people research things (if they want to)
- can tell people what to think (if they don't want to research)
- has been serving as a replacement for the mainstream media for atleast a decade

One thing people KNOW without being told is that their money is stretched thin and they are working as hard or harder than they ever have. They know that Wall Street and the bankers play a role in that.