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TiefBlau

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Geo Da Sponge said:
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THEJORRRG said:
Still waaaay more expensive than a PS3 or Xbox. $500 is just far more than I can spend.
Is it? $300 more than a stock console, without games. While the multiplatform games are all $60 new, you can find a plethora of fun games for cheap, and I don't just mean flash based games either. For example F1 2010 is $20 on Steam right now. Black Ops is $45. Witcher 2 is $45 to preorder. First Witcher is only $10. There's 957 games under $10 on Steam, including games like Gothica, Magicka, Neverwinter Nights... I bought Assassin's Creed Brotherhood for my PS3, used, for $55 2 weeks ago. Saving anywhere from 10-40 dollars on games means in the long haul, you save.
"In the long haul" is nice and all, but not everyone can afford to pay $500 in one go on what is essentially a luxury.
Then perhaps they should save a little more. If you can't accumulate a couple hundred more by waiting a little while, you're probably materializing the video games you play on your console out of thin air, because console games ain't cheap, and if you buy only from Gamestop, you may as well pirate for all the good you do to the industry.

If you'd pay hundreds of dollars for a console, it's not exactly that big a jump to pay a couple hundred more for a PC. Especially not when a PC almost always gets games (even on release day) cheaper, doesn't pay for internet twice, and has, of all things, Steam.
 

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THEJORRRG said:
Still waaaay more expensive than a PS3 or Xbox. $500 is just far more than I can spend.
Sucks to live in America, it seems.
Judging by Direct2Drive, PC games cost the same as Console games.
In Europe, a PC game costs less than half.

Basicly, the more games you buy, the cheaper PC gaming becomes.
And then you still get all the other perks on top.

I love my Xbox for Halo and Rock Band and my PS3 for Uncharted, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain and Metal Gear Solid.

But my PC takes the cake.
 

TiefBlau

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"You can buy used games and it'd be JUST AS CHEAP OMG"

You know none of that goes to the developers, right? So it's, like, piracy that you have to pay for?

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
 

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Mmmhmmm. That's still 3x what I spent on my 360. Come back when you've got a $200 gaming rig.
 

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That would be quite interesting to me if I didn't already have a PC that ran all the games I ever play on the highest settings at full speed.
 

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THEJORRRG said:
Still waaaay more expensive than a PS3 or Xbox. $500 is just far more than I can spend.
That's why people who can't afford $500 have the XBox though, isn't it? So they can game on a budget, I'm pretty sure that was the point.

The graphics card proposed here can run things much prettier and cleaner than a console, so that's what the investment is for.

If this machine had a sticker on it saying "Playstation IV" people wouldn't complain though, I'd put money on it.
 

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Chibz said:
Mmmhmmm. That's still 3x what I spent on my 360. Come back when you've got a $200 gaming rig.
There's no way in hell you spent only $200 on your Xbox 360. I'd know, because I also bought the arcade system at $200, and since then I've had to buy a harddrive ($60 used), a wireless adapter ($100 used), and two additional controllers ($70 new). So yea, $430 just for the hardware alone. Considering that the $500 PC the OP posted about is roughly two times more powerful and customizable than the 360, doesn't seem like such a great deal. Don't even get me into the price difference on games or paid DLC vs free mods.

Yes, I have bought several consoles in the past, and chances are that I will continue to do so in the future, but don't kid yourself into thinking you're saving any decent amount of money on them comparatively. It's just not true.
I don't think you really need to worry about that, it wasn't a troll but it wasn't exactly intelligent either.
Spending $200 on what, seven year old machine? I forget how long it's been out but you see my point. People who demand PCs to be like $200 could probably get one, but they would get what they pay for.
Graphics as low as the xbox and FPS to cry about. And then they'd cry about how PC gaming sucks so bad.

Seriously, the PS3 cost near $600 when it was released and this stamps all over that machine with iron boots, love the playstation though I do. Also note how many people were beign TRAMPLED (litereally) to pick up the PS3 on launch day.

So as you can see, it's so the price that people care about.
Nah, I'm pulling your leg, people just like to complain about what they don't get.
 

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TiefBlau said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Wolfram01 said:
THEJORRRG said:
Still waaaay more expensive than a PS3 or Xbox. $500 is just far more than I can spend.
Is it? $300 more than a stock console, without games. While the multiplatform games are all $60 new, you can find a plethora of fun games for cheap, and I don't just mean flash based games either. For example F1 2010 is $20 on Steam right now. Black Ops is $45. Witcher 2 is $45 to preorder. First Witcher is only $10. There's 957 games under $10 on Steam, including games like Gothica, Magicka, Neverwinter Nights... I bought Assassin's Creed Brotherhood for my PS3, used, for $55 2 weeks ago. Saving anywhere from 10-40 dollars on games means in the long haul, you save.
"In the long haul" is nice and all, but not everyone can afford to pay $500 in one go on what is essentially a luxury.
Then perhaps they should save a little more. If you can't accumulate a couple hundred more by waiting a little while, you're probably materializing the video games you play on your console out of thin air, because console games ain't cheap, and if you buy only from Gamestop, you may as well pirate for all the good you do to the industry.

If you'd pay hundreds of dollars for a console, it's not exactly that big a jump to pay a couple hundred more for a PC. Especially not when a PC almost always gets games (even on release day) cheaper, doesn't pay for internet twice, and has, of all things, Steam.
It never ceases to amaze me how riled up people get over the simple concept: "PC gaming may be cheaper in the long run, but console gaming has a lower entry price". But of course you have to wrangle this truth, this one little detail so that you can still play it in your favour. Apparently being cheapest in the long run, something which is obviously better for anyone who can obtain it, isn't good enough any more. You have to intrude into areas which are clearly irrelevant to you, having got a decent gaming PC, and declare that the PC has dominion over those as well when it so obviously does not. Is PC gaming cheaper than people sometimes think? Yes. Is it cheaper in the long run? Probably, although that depends how you spend your money. Apparently the superiority granted to you by reality isn't sufficient to justify it to yourself.

console games ain't cheap
Well no, they aren't. But the 'every console game costs $60' line is a myth. I could almost always get console games for less than $60 (or more accurately, £40, the local equivalent) when they were first released, and they would rapidly drop after that.
 

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You would be surprised how many times I see something like "had to rma this for the third time XXXX company is such shit" in newegg reviews. It amazes me that someone can go through three or four of a product and not have it finally dawn on them that they might be the problem.

It's kind of the same with people on this thread. The entire argument is pointless. People are going to cling to whichever they picked up, what other choice do they have? It's not like they can take it back to the store at this point. So nobody is going to actually admit that the system they picked up might not actually be ideal in some manner.

It doesn't matter, get over yourselves, have fun and play some games. You wouldn't stop a kid on the street and tell him his mountain bike isn't ideal for ridding on the roads, and he should have picked up something else would you?

Stop! Bad forum junkie, you leave that kid alone. He is just trying to have fun.
 

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THEJORRRG said:
Still waaaay more expensive than a PS3 or Xbox. $500 is just far more than I can spend.
Remember the good old days when PS3 cost over a thousand dollars?
*nostalgia*
 

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I started gaming when I was an infant - some weird talking parrot thing on the PC that was DOS based. I had to have been 3 or 4 so my recollection of what it involved ends there, but my first experience with gaming was on a PC. When I was 5 I also got a SNES and NES. I played lots of Super Mario on the SNES and the classic Mario on the NES - but my library for these consoles never exceeded about 15 games or so. I rented games a lot as a kid, but didn't really ask for a lot of them. At the same age I was playing PC games (Namely Duke Nukem 3D - but also Wolfenstein 3D, Raptor, lots of other early 90's classics). I asked for way more PC games than console games.

By the time I was 10 I had a PS One and an N64 - I played the games that were exclusive to each on them and liked them in their own ways. But I had a lot more PC titles - just off the top of my head I can recall having Age of Empires II, Dungeon Keeper, Rollercoaster Tycoon, Theme Hospital, Theme Park, Half Life (Boy as a kid did I want this game so bad for what seemed like forever), Command & Conquer (Original), Twinsen's Odyssey, Transport Tycoon, SimCity 2000, Abe's Oddworld, Descent, MechWarrior - just to name a couple. I dunno about kids and teenagers today, but affordable and easy computer hardware has come a LOOONG way since the '90s. No more complicated sound card IRQ and DMA settings - none of that crap, it's just plug and play and self configure. You don't even need to have the drivers for anything anymore because everything auto-installs pretty much.

I cannot imagine not playing PC games...that would be a miserable existence and I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't play PC games. You miss out on tons of titles and stuff that wouldn't work on a console very well or just plain won't be ported. Tons of strategy games which would feel wrong on a console, so many classic titles that are just weird but very fun and cool that wouldn't have the budget to be on a console. Hell, you can't play Minecraft on a 360 or PS3 and given its startup nature - things like it at best will be ported to the console in a year or two, but maybe never.

So for people to act like PCs are too expensive, and they'll just keep their consoles...what poor souls you people are. So much goodness you miss out on - and exchange you get mediocre games, with mediocre graphics (compared to PC), limited by manufacturer updates and limited with NO modifications of the game (So no "Garry's Mod" for the 360 Half Life 2 or anything like it). I'm more of the nature these days that I'm about to give up console gaming. The games have all been rubbish for the past year. There were a few highlights here and there, but even so many of the games that were good on the console came out on PC so you aren't missing anything. I do enjoy consoles for their exclusive titles (PS3 for MGS, 360 for Forza, Splinter Cell) - but the plethora of mediocrity on the consoles is just mind boggling. And to pay an extra $10 over the PC price for a more limited version of the game? Psh - I can just wait for it to have a sale on Steam and that $50 new PC game is now $25 and has the option of being modded and everything.

To be totally honest, I haven't spent more than $20 on a new game in half a year - I've bought several new titles on the PC through Steam for nothin'! Most of the Total war games I've bought for under $10, I bought Metro 2033 for $20, Minecraft was in Alpha when I bought it so it was $14-ish. I'd go broke buying new 360 or PS3 games all the time - renting games is the biggest factor consoles have going for them IMO. If you had to buy the games - it would be much easier for me to just say "No more" to game consoles. I like consoles and PCs for gaming, but in a real comparison nothing holds a candle to PCs. You know, those console games are made on PCs...they just lower the requirements to run on consoles. I will always love the tweakability of a PC as opposed to the locked down nature of game consoles (George Hotz v. SCEA anyone?)
 

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I think I bought my ps3 for more than that... Of course I also got a laptop that runs all these games like a champ for 300$ by taking advantage of a deal that my school system had. I got to choose a computer, at the end of the year I could buy it from them for half price! was quite pleased, until I realized this Sony Vaio was a complete rip! there was a problem with the motherboard starting out so I sent it back, they fixed it, and when they sent it back to me its frame was all cracked up which voided the warranty! Sony is Satan.
PC games rule though, Diablo 2 was one of my fave's but then there is like a million free games you can get on the PC not to mention mods for the games you do have. I remember a mod in oblivion for a flying city which was half done. My friend tweeked it a bunch and finished it. Was quite pleased with it until I go bored and had it disappear into the mess of files on my computer....
 

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i have a friend who makes £18 a week (about $20-$30, not sure) and over the last 6 months he's built himself a computer tower. it has most of the components, and i think he took some from older computers.
i looks pretty fuckin cool too (clear side panel)
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Used games = Legalized piracy.
You honestly did not just compare used game sales to piracy. Because if you did I'd have to call you woefully and painfully (for me reading it, at least) ignorant.

Then I'd have to slap you and tell you to go back to the kitchen and make me some manner of sandwich.

Fortunately you didn't do such an ignorant, silly thing. And we're all happier for it.