Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Revives the MMO Dream
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Orks are always pvp. In fact I'm going to be legitimatly disappointed if Orks aren't allowed to murder each other in game.Sixcess said:
OT:I'd like there to be tau/guard, but I can understand completely why they're out. They don't mix well with "brutal melee combat". Still, I'll have to keep an eye on this.
God, this is going to suck. All I can envision is WH40k Space Marine multiplayer on a larger scale with vehicles. Ohhh, this doesn't bode well at all!
Considering they said "Space Marines", I have my doubts. A shame really, considering I really wanted to be a Guardsman back when Dark Millennium was in development.Desert Punk said:
OT: In a word, "Cursed". Dark Millennium was not the first attempt at a 40K MMO, hoo no... X3
Clearly the Dark God require more sacrifices to get this running. I really want to hear more on this game, classes, vehicles, chapters, legions and clans and craftworlds. Hoping that this will take off, I'll give it a shot.
That's cool and all, but I was never a big Space Marines kind of guy. Add the Inquisition and let us play as Inquisitors and Sisters of Battle, then we'll talk (I'll settle for Dark Eldar too). I'd also ask for the IG, but the direction this game is going makes that unrealistic. Maybe as weak NPC back-up (seriously, when is the IG gonna get it's own game?)?Andy Chalk said:
To me it doesn't sound like an RPG so much as another attempt to create a "Planetside" type experience, using the justification that anything can be labeled as an "RPG" if you take things literally enough. From the way it sounds,
it's pretty much going to be a shooter, and seems to be based more on factional conflict between players than PVE combat. When I hear the term "procedurally generated" mentioned but nothing about a storyline, I confess it's a
cause for concern. I'm also wary when I hear that their biggest claim that they might night suck is having some former Funcom employees, "Funcom" made some decent games, but at the same time they did drop their stock until under $2 a
share due to impractical expectations.
To me, if they are going to do a "Warhammer 40k" RPG, they need to look more at the novels than the minatures game and focus on the world at large. They should probably focus almost entirely on the Imperium for players and use the other races largely as a source for things to have people fight against. You could do a lot with 40k, as there is a huge world to explore and lots of things to throw into it, as well as ready made treasure filling the role of "magical items" in the form of Archaeotech and such. Simply put they need to put an eye more towards "Dark Heresy" and "Rogue Trader" and less towards "Booyah Space Marines!". While Space Marines are fun as a concept they aren't really an RPG-type concept and work better for war games, which of course helps reinforce my suspicians about what this will turn into. It's really hard to justify a lot of Space Marines running around as individuals doing whatever they want on the battlefield or otherwise, and on top of that, most of these guys are supposed to be periodically brain wiped to avoid corruption, there are exceptions, but not enough to justify tens of thousands of players all running around as leashless Space Marines all from chapters that don't wipe, or at granted an exception.
it's pretty much going to be a shooter, and seems to be based more on factional conflict between players than PVE combat. When I hear the term "procedurally generated" mentioned but nothing about a storyline, I confess it's a
cause for concern. I'm also wary when I hear that their biggest claim that they might night suck is having some former Funcom employees, "Funcom" made some decent games, but at the same time they did drop their stock until under $2 a
share due to impractical expectations.
To me, if they are going to do a "Warhammer 40k" RPG, they need to look more at the novels than the minatures game and focus on the world at large. They should probably focus almost entirely on the Imperium for players and use the other races largely as a source for things to have people fight against. You could do a lot with 40k, as there is a huge world to explore and lots of things to throw into it, as well as ready made treasure filling the role of "magical items" in the form of Archaeotech and such. Simply put they need to put an eye more towards "Dark Heresy" and "Rogue Trader" and less towards "Booyah Space Marines!". While Space Marines are fun as a concept they aren't really an RPG-type concept and work better for war games, which of course helps reinforce my suspicians about what this will turn into. It's really hard to justify a lot of Space Marines running around as individuals doing whatever they want on the battlefield or otherwise, and on top of that, most of these guys are supposed to be periodically brain wiped to avoid corruption, there are exceptions, but not enough to justify tens of thousands of players all running around as leashless Space Marines all from chapters that don't wipe, or at granted an exception.
But what about the Imperial Guard?
Fething glory stealing Space Marines, getting all the attention. Its the Guard who does all the dirty work and the dying! Damn it, I want a flashlight and a flak jacket!
Fething glory stealing Space Marines, getting all the attention. Its the Guard who does all the dirty work and the dying! Damn it, I want a flashlight and a flak jacket!
Im rather nervous about a 40k or warhammer mmo tbh... Would rather more "conventional" games with the warhammer brand, the universe is brimming with possibilities and settings for rpgs, adventure or even management games as well as the usual strategy stuff.
Im already bitching about the sides:
Space marines only for the imperium? Way to shoot themselves in the foot already and ignore the guard, adepta sororitas (aka female space marines if you will) and mechanicus, the mixed arms approach would have been much more representative of the imperium then it just being a side full of marines....
Same goes for chaos actually, besides having the evil versions of the imperium classes, they also got daemons. Sticking to just chaos marines is...boring.
Also in an mmo its not a smart idea to lock out female players wanting to play female charactets from playing those sides... And if female mmo players atm want to roll chaos or imperium, tough luck sister, you're gonna have to be playing a burly guy ;P
Which leaves orks and eldar, who are both sides that would seem to offer a lot more flexibility in class archetype (hypothetically). I can see those 2 camps being the "cool" ones on account of that and probably the more fun ones community wise.
Anyways will be watching this space but cant help but feel concern rather then joy.
Im already bitching about the sides:
Space marines only for the imperium? Way to shoot themselves in the foot already and ignore the guard, adepta sororitas (aka female space marines if you will) and mechanicus, the mixed arms approach would have been much more representative of the imperium then it just being a side full of marines....
Same goes for chaos actually, besides having the evil versions of the imperium classes, they also got daemons. Sticking to just chaos marines is...boring.
Also in an mmo its not a smart idea to lock out female players wanting to play female charactets from playing those sides... And if female mmo players atm want to roll chaos or imperium, tough luck sister, you're gonna have to be playing a burly guy ;P
Which leaves orks and eldar, who are both sides that would seem to offer a lot more flexibility in class archetype (hypothetically). I can see those 2 camps being the "cool" ones on account of that and probably the more fun ones community wise.
Anyways will be watching this space but cant help but feel concern rather then joy.
Not all Chaos Marines are male, some are hermaphrodites. Anyway the Eldar have female fighters. Besides, these are the first 4, they will add additional ones down the line.Frankster said:
"Tau get so very little love..."Angnor said:
Clearly you havn't read the 6th edition codex. Tau went from the laughing stock of 40k to hyper-brutal and punishing.
HELL YEAH! This is the 40k game I've been wanting since Space Marine's Exterminatus mode was made. This is gonna be awesome!
I hope they add in other factions later on. While I am starting a Chaos army, I'm a Tyranid man at heart and would love to see them put in. Also, Imperial Guard would be fun.
I hope they add in other factions later on. While I am starting a Chaos army, I'm a Tyranid man at heart and would love to see them put in. Also, Imperial Guard would be fun.