Warhammer 40,000 vs Star Wars vs Real-world vs Anything else

[lostclause]

Well I meant in 40k they are arguably the best troops. Though the Star Shiptroopers Mobile infantry are defiantly amongst the best fictional troops out there, that and they were the inspiration for the Space Marines.

I've got money says the SM can take the troopers any day.

We never responded to castle crashers because it was not worth our time. The inquisition would hunt those 4 mutants down and purge them with fire and litanies of hate. Magic? What part of Warp do you not understand?

It's really quite simple. Any opposition presented is systematically proven to be inferior by their equivalent. I'm just going to go ahead and kill the discussion right here and now.

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Fear the Emperor.
Fear his might.
Fear his walking God-Machines.
Fear this, the Warhound, fury of his legions..
Fear the Reaver, twice it's size, whos guns sing death every second.
Fear the Warlord, twice a Reaver, who can crush armies with guns linked to a chained star.
Fear The Imperator, A Walking Fortress Upon Which Ten Thousand Men Sing Destruction, Whose Guns Make Mountains Fall

When The Imperium Comes For You, You Will Be Taught Fear. Then Humility. Then Death.

For The Emperor

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/SVMkDQIssGI/AAAAAAAADn8/ytYTH1wEuKs/s320/stompa_front_550x549.jpg
Orks, orks, orks, orks...
LET'S STOMP SOME HUMIES!

 

[Puppetmaster24]

Well I meant in 40k they are arguably the best troops. Though the Star Shiptroopers Mobile infantry are defiantly amongst the best fictional troops out there, that and they were the inspiration for the Space Marines.

I've got money says the SM can take the troopers any day.

We never responded to castle crashers because it was not worth our time. The inquisition would hunt those 4 mutants down and purge them with fire and litanies of hate. Magic? What part of Warp do you not understand?

It's really quite simple. Any opposition presented is systematically proven to be inferior by their equivalent. I'm just going to go ahead and kill the discussion right here and now.

image snip

Fear the Emperor.
Fear his might.
Fear his walking God-Machines.
Fear this, the Warhound, fury of his legions..
Fear the Reaver, twice it's size, whos guns sing death every second.
Fear the Warlord, twice a Reaver, who can crush armies with guns linked to a chained star.
Fear The Imperator, A Walking Fortress Upon Which Ten Thousand Men Sing Destruction, Whose Guns Make Mountains Fall

When The Imperium Comes For You, You Will Be Taught Fear. Then Humility. Then Death.

For The Emperor

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4nzgPbHlNo4/SVMkDQIssGI/AAAAAAAADn8/ytYTH1wEuKs/s320/stompa_front_550x549.jpg
Orks, orks, orks, orks...
LET'S STOMP SOME HUMIES!

is a stompa the best you can do. let me introduce the Star Wars galaxy to the gargants.
http://buonanno.org/rrb/img/Gargant_Size_Chart3.gif

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GenHellspawn]

Swiss Guards, spaceships, titans, who cares? I have bullet time.

 

[Voltaggia]

Wall of text that nearly killed me

*fingercrack*

Oh boy... thanks to the avatar of a user prone to destroying Warhammer 40k miniatures and books and whose nickname is stunningly similar to my IRL name, I believe that I will now reveal the trump card that will prove that there is indeed someone out there who can destroy the mighty armies of warhammer 40k

Remember the faces of these three men, for they have faced horrors that would make any space marine cry.

"What's the big deal?" you may ask. Let me tell you...

They had to go through series of impossible puzzles, driven by sheer determination to get out of their house. They've drifted into the realms of make-believe, only to battle monsters that would destroy the very souls that inhabi the humankind. They have ridden countless objects like mechanical bulls. Their names are Problem Sleuth, Pickle Inspector and Ace Dick. And they've defeated the greatest evil in every know dimension, Demonhead Mobster Kingpin.

I mean, think about it. They distilled candy corn, helped elves, weasels, clowns and pigs to reach a truce with writing an impossibly complicated treaty. They each had a female counterpart in an alternate dimension which was them (read the whole story if you're too confused), and one of them ascended into Godhood, and then made another himself split into particles that compose all reality. They summoned Fluthlu and promtly killed him. They solved Labyrinthe Sudocube Comprehensile and won a game of life against dead itself. In the final battle, they sacrificed the most important things there are to defeat the final boss, and they did it by themselves. The whole three of them.

Also... did I mention... Sepulchritude? See for yourself. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4] Space marines are nothing compared to these badasses... Now retort... Cause shit just got serious.

 

[Puppetmaster24]

Ok they may trump the marines but let me introduce the realm of chaos.

the realm of chaos is a dimension made out of pure energy that is ever changing and totaly unstructured, it is not bound by the laws of physics of or logic, to look upon it is to see madness and become mad. no human can look upon it because the logic that all humans strive to impose on things will not be their.
then their are the deamons, the weeakest of which are the furies who swarm in their thousands to kill any lost soul or being that is in their realm, despite being the weakest deamons they are still stronger, faster and tougher than most human soldiers, and they can fly.
So tell me how they get past that. then i can tell you about the realms of the chaos gods.

And just becuase they can do all that does not mean that they can survive being shot by a bolter or a lascannon.

 

[Voltaggia]

But they can...

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=000882

AUTO-PARRY!

And besides, they've already defeated pure evil. Demonhead Mobster Kingpin? He descended into demonhood, becoming the most powerful being ever to exist and ripped the universe in half with a single attack. Also, an alternate dimension version of him transformed into a black hole / fractal crossover, but was defeated by the hands of the three heroes.

Now, I've read most of the manuals, and I've still yet to see anything from Warhammer 40k destroy a black hole.

 

[Puppetmaster24]

A small bullit is a bit diferent from a bloter shell, they explode when they are in your gut, that guy wold now have a 6 inch wide hole in him.
and i dought that deamonhead mobster kingpin is the most powerful being ever to exist when you compare him to the chaos gods, let me introduce you to slaanesh, he/she delites in torture and the delites of the pleasures of the flesh, he/she ate the gods of the eldar after he/she was first born into the phisical universe, the pshyic scream that echoed from his/her birth all but destroyed a whole race of people (the eldar), and the other gods are just as bad. the only reason the gods have not split the universe into fragments is the god-emperor of mankind is holding the gods back through shear force of will. beat that with just a mobster kingpin.

 

[Voltaggia]

Since we're using universe vs. universe... here is something for you to chew on. I bring in the Demonhead Mobster Kingpin and put him against everything you send at me.

Read some things...

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=001667

"...In addition to which, he is completely invulnerable to all physical attacks..."

As far as I know, exploding bolt and laser rifle to the chest counts as a physical attack.

"...He also regenerates any quantity of damage he suffers instantaneously"

AND: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=001742

"Sensing his impending demise, DMK grows a few extra health meters."

And, again, in the first link...

"...He is only susceptible to damage caused by righteous fires of charisma..."

I doubt there are any really charismatic people in WH40K

((On a side note, it's kind of awkward how you ignored Castle Crashers, but you keep blasting away at a silly webcomic. The things we do for entertainment...))

EDIT: Also, Phoenix Wright comes in, proves how it wasn't Horus who killed Emperor of Man, because the blood on the ship console is actually made at the wrong angle than the witness said, Chaos is destroyed, Emperor dies in peace and Tyranids get the fuck out in fear of the OBJECTION!-yelling-finger-pointing-spikey-haired man.

 

[Puppetmaster24]

ok you beat 40k with that "thing". but i raise you the belivers from unforgotten realms. i belive you gone, now you are gone.
and they did'nt defeat 40K DHMK did, so why not just post him on his own.

P.S i am getting bored of this so i may just post the greatest soldiers i can think off, somthing i created myself for my novela, which if you are all good i may post the WIP of.

 

[Amnestic]

I doubt there are any really charismatic people in WH40K

I just finished reading the Space Wolf books and Ragnar felt pretty damn charismatic to me when he wasn't brooding. Haegr too.

And Logan Grimnar, of course.

EDIT: Also, Phoenix Wright comes in, proves how it wasn't Horus who killed Emperor of Man, because the blood on the ship console is actually made at the wrong angle than the witness said, Chaos is destroyed, Emperor dies in peace and Tyranids get the fuck out in fear of the OBJECTION!-yelling-finger-pointing-spikey-haired man.

Your Lord and Mistress frowns upon these shenanigans.

 

[Puppetmaster24]

tyranids don't know fear, nor do orks.

 

[Voltaggia]

Tyranids bring me to an interesting fact to point out. (Switching to Star Wars arguments) - isn't The Force a power that links all living beings together? If we brought in the armies of WH40K ((and with you guys saying that they outnumber Star Wars armies like 9999999999999999 to 0.00000000001)), they should increase the number of living beings in the universe (not to mention Tyranids, which have absolutely too-fucking-many troops, including drones made only to be later reabsorbed), therefore giving additional strength to The Force, THEREFORE granting much much much much more power to the Jedi than in normal circumstances, making them virtually unstoppable, force-pushing-entire-planets-and-armies-spamming, 8-light-year-force-jumping, across-the-solar-system-lightsaber-throwing, droid-genociding, inspiring-more-terror-than-stalin-and-hitler-combined-via-fear, stasis-fielding-entire-armies, healing-lost-limbs and contucting-eight-bajilion-googol-volts-of-electricity killing machines.

EDIT: And not to mention if someone brought a Jedi with Battle Meditation power, I can safely assure that Space Marines would fight at the rate of Imperial Guard, and Imperial Guard would just roll over and die.



They may be charismatic, but do they have any charisma-based attacks? The only thing able to stop DMK was Sepulchritude, and that requires a level 8 IMPETUS COMB (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=001283), which I'm pretty sure that WH40K doesn't have.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

*Summons a Slaneeshi Greater Daemon*

Meet the epitome of charisma, lust and so on.

Oh, and I doubt that the Jedi will simply become that powerful. Mainly becuause the human physique has certain limitations, and that one is called 'Alpha-Class'. So, yes, they could, but they'd go batshit insane and start killing everything in reach before dying horribly as a greater daemon manifests itself.

Plus, I can just summon Commissar Yarrick. He does not know fear, laughs mockingly at the very idea of death, is the living manifestation of pain, and has a laser eye.

 

[SoD_Timber_Wolf]

actually, you could just win this struggle with a single random anime chick in a bikini, complied to §34 of the Laws of Anime, Second Corollary (for all laws see http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/pop/?frames=n;read=24019&expand=1)

Bikinis render the wearer invulnerable to any form of damage

be as it may, NO random animy chick is just a random girl with a bikini, so we´ll have one invulnerable bounty hunter-ninja-samurai-gunfighter-supergirl. with a bikini...

 

[Voltaggia]

the human physique

There you go. You forgot, we have other races in Star Wars, who are better suited to the role of Jedi described above.

And, the Jedi feet the disturbance in the force when lot of living beings die, making them weaker. Therefore, adding a lot of living beings would make them stronger (gah, I have to avoid the world people lest someone says that Tyranids are out of the count).

Yeah, the epitome of Charisma - but does he have any attacks that are based on his charisma?

 

[Puppetmaster24]

how about we show you slaanesh him/herself, no living or non-living creature you can possibly think off can look at him/her without falling for him/her and pledging themselves to slaanesh for all eternity.

 

[Puppetmaster24]

or i could just call up doctor manhatten from the watchmen.
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/drmanhattan-smiley.jpg

 

[Rolling Thunder]

the human physique

There you go. You forgot, we have other races in Star Wars, who are better suited to the role of Jedi described above.

And, the Jedi feet the disturbance in the force when lot of living beings die, making them weaker. Therefore, adding a lot of living beings would make them stronger (gah, I have to avoid the world people lest someone says that Tyranids are out of the count).

Yeah, the epitome of Charisma - but does he have any attacks that are based on his charisma?

1. Yes, but they are a minority. And even they will simply go batshit-insane and start frothing at the mouth, simply because their is a limit to which a being can contain that kind of power. Plus, I have the Culexus Assassin. Your puny psykers will fall before him as your heads explode from his ability to nullify psychic powers. Sisters of Battle and Grey Knights basically shrug off most psychic attacks by dint of sheer faith and devotion, and remember that it only takes one well-placed HE artillery round to finish a Jedi, let alone a Deathstrike Missile or so on. A Jedi, is roughly the equivalent of a Primaris Psyker - a tough, hard psyker, but hardly an unstoppable killer.

2. The Tyranids are out for the count, simply because they produce an effect called 'The Shadow in the Warp', which dampens all psychic abilities around them. Orks already generate their own gestalat psychic field in the form of Gork and Mork, humans have the Emperor to absorb their psychic 'charge' (and the chaos gods), the Eldar aren't worth counting and neither are the Tau. Oh, and the Necrons aren't even alive.

In short, the super-jedi aren't going to happen simply because the gods of the respective races already absorb their psychic potential.

3. Lash of Slaneesh, Gaze of Slaneesh and so on.....yes, in summary.

 

[Voltaggia]

Jedi are not psykers. And the sith may go insane, but the Jedi who follow the light side of the force have enough self-control (or, at least, Jedi masters do, but I think that even Jedi masters with that kind of powers would be enough) to contain the insanity. Which universe are we inside (as in: is Star Wars invading WH40K or is WH40K invading Star Wars)? If we're in Star Wars universe, I'm pretty sure that there is no warp there. Likewise, if we're in Warhammer 40k universe, there is no Force. Also, Force is not a psychic power, it's something that connects all life hence the Tyranid stuff won't work.

Also, you can't hit a jedi with an artillery shell if he force-pushes it away. Most likely in a bunch of space marines.

For Slaneesh, I recommend we bring five blind jedi and a mirror. He sees himself and, problem solved. At any rate, if he's that sort of powerful, why doesn't he just take a stroll around the universe and make everything worship him?

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=001466

Ripping the universe in half would, I think, be fatal even for WH40K.

 

[Gorrister]

NOW look who you've gone and woken up.


ALL GLORY TO CTHULU! All your weapons are useless!