Warhammer 40k: How Blizzard is a cunning bunch..

[Cheesebob]

LOTR 'ripped off' Norse mythology.

Go figure

Norse Mythology clearly ripped off Mesolithic Ideology, pfft...

Who ripped off stuff like worshiping the sun...so basically every single religion, game and myth has ripped off somthing at one point

 

[John Funk]

Here we go again...

 

[teisjm]

And i guess games workshop came up with the whole alien concept as well as space marines and orc's?

A few examples, not neccecerily the first apprearance of said things but they came b4 40k

Alien(the movie) 1979 was before warhammer 40k which came out in 1987, and i'll bet my right nut that ailen wasn't the first movie with aliens in it.

Star wars is from 1977, and the stormtroopers are sort of space marines i guess.

Elders are space-elves (sort of) I dunno if someone has launched elves into outer space b4 but elves are not a games workshop original either, same goes for orcs.

My point is that most fantasy/sci-fi could be called rip-offs of other fantasy stuff, don't make a big deal out of it.

there is a Really big diffrence between being inspired by something and Blatetntly ripping something off. Warhammer was Inspired by all of these things, that is true... however, they developed thier own design, look, and feel for everything they made.

yeah, Tyranids draw a lot of insperation from the movie 'Alien' but do the aliens in those films look identical to the tyranids? Hell no. a bulk of the Tyranid fighting force look absolutely Nothing like those aliens. only the warrior brood looks similar but even then there is such a large diffrence between the two.

now compare a Zergling and a hormagaunt
compare a Hydralisk to a Ravener
a Carnifex to a Ultralisk

it isn't 'insperation' it is damn near copy and past.
really, learn the diffrence because it is just stupid to say that WH40k Ripped off a book that was written in the 50s... inspired, yes... ripped off, no.

Well i don't deny that they look very much alike, and people have even said that starcraft was supposed to be a WH40k game till GW backed out. What i'm saying is that people shouldn't whine about such things.

Some of the examples may me less identical but ok take Warhammer (not 40K) high elfs and wood elfs doesn't really differ a whole lot from tolkiens intepretation of them, and could also be called rip-offs. Tolkien intented orcs, and most fantasy franchises rip them off... even with the same name. Does this make them bad? It just means that awesomeness is supplied in more ways by different people, and it only benefits us gamers.

 

[Deadman Walkin]

Ugh, I believe that if you thought of it, almost everything is a rip off "somehow." If you look at some fantasy games/sci-fi games they tend to run along the same path. Either they stick to "history" or use ideas like magic and such.

In my opinion, you could say that WoW was a rip off of runescape, because of its MMO element and stuff (I never played runescape so don't expect me to know everything about it.) Anyways I believe that good ideas are used quite often because well.....they are good ideas! I have much enjoyed SC, WCIII as well as Diablo I & II. Ripoffs or not, I believe they are great games!

 

[burninjack4l]

Warhammer 40K still had a large amount of content before the video games. The table top game and books were (and still are) very popular.

Oh sorry I didn't mean to give off the wrong impression, I meant simply that they didn't have a straightforward VIDEO game to copy.

and the video game Space Hulk which came out before Warcraft: Orcs and humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Hulk_(video_game)

Oops. Okay well, at least that game looked literally nothing like starcraft?

There was also this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Liberation].

Edit: And this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_gate] now I think about it.

Not that those games are very much like StarCraft, but I just wanted to throw them in there. And say that Dawn of War was not the first 40K game on the PC.

Those were a couple years after starcraft/warcraft however, which was my main point

 

[TerranReaper]

I think marines in space and large swarms of parasite-like aliens aren't exactly a new concept, Starship troopers/Aliens anyone? Although the Protoss seems like a different story there....

 

[teh_gunslinger]

Warhammer 40K still had a large amount of content before the video games. The table top game and books were (and still are) very popular.

Oh sorry I didn't mean to give off the wrong impression, I meant simply that they didn't have a straightforward VIDEO game to copy.

and the video game Space Hulk which came out before Warcraft: Orcs and humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Hulk_(video_game)

Oops. Okay well, at least that game looked literally nothing like starcraft?

There was also this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Liberation].

Edit: And this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_gate] now I think about it.

Not that those games are very much like StarCraft, but I just wanted to throw them in there. And say that Dawn of War was not the first 40K game on the PC.

Those were a couple years after starcraft/warcraft however, which was my main point

Chaos Gate, yes. I think Final Liberation was earlier.
But I'm not disputing your point. I don't think FL was much of an influence on StarCraft. It was just to make a fuller picture.

 

[burninjack4l]

Appreciated (I'm angry at myself for not knowing of these games until just now, tbh)

 

[Chibz]

But really, everything fantasy is pretty much Tolkien influenced, and most things space mariney were influenced by Alien.

As an author I take great offense to this... Some of us have better influences than that talentless hack, Tolkien.

 

[solidstatemind]

These threads are never complete until the obligatory PA reference:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/4/10/i-hope-you-like-text/

 

[Loiosh91]

They can also sacrifice their most elite troops to summon hugely powerful monsters of doom and awesomeness.

when do the protoss do that?

 

[Zebidizy]

Blizzard was hired by games workshop to create a warhammer game a while ago but they pulled out 3/4 through development, thats why its soo alike

btw this is from some of the main guys at GW

 

[Synek]

Every one rips of something from everybody.