Warhammer 40k - The Books
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I'm gonna say EIsenhorn, as it cannot be stressed enough how awesome that sereis of books is. Pick up the omnimus, It's about UK£10 (not bad seeing how most paperbacks are £7). Read it now, and then you will be inspired to run a dark heresy campaign. I'm gonna say Gaunts Ghosts again, but then my collection of 40K books runs out. They've got nothing on my Star Wars books in numbers, but then my star Wars figures have got nothing in numbers on my 40K figures. At least 200 Cadians. And I'm re-painting them. Go figure.
And as always: Ultrajoe is right.Ultrajoe said:
Dan Abnetts books, the ones I've read are great. Of course I've only read the Gaunt's Ghosts and Eisenhorn. Though I guess there are enough GG books to make an informed opinion.
Have to disagree there, if only in part. In spite of all the stick this author's novels got I decided I'd try them anyway to be able to judge fairly. While I agree that the first Blood Ravens novel was utter crap, things slowly pick up in the second one, and the third one was definitely worth reading - the Eldar harlequins and Ahriman especially make the book worth reading, and Gabriel Angelos is by far not the worst Space Marine protagonist I've seen to date.Aedwynn said:
@opiwankenobi: Just finished 'The Last Church'. Predictable, yes, but highly enjoyable nonetheless!
There were no pre-existing stories for the Blood Ravens, and neither was there a codex. Once Goto was hired to write the novels, he simply did what all the other BL authors do: take a chapter with no or almost no backstory and make them your own.Kukul said:
And about the no-talent issue... well everyone's entitled to their opinion, but since you yourself admit to not having read even one of these books it's fair to say you're not qualified to render judgement on the matter until you have.
The later Horus Heresy books aren't as good I think. I gave up halfway through Fulgrim.
I'd reccomend (although it's WFB) the Genevieve books. They're very good.
I'd reccomend (although it's WFB) the Genevieve books. They're very good.
Dan Abnett is great. Ciaphas Cain I want to get ASAP. But I have a problem with the Horus Heresy books.
I haven't read a single one. That's not the problem. The problem is that I was raised on 40k in the time before the HH books, when HH was a time of myth and legend which could never be understood beyond allusions and guesswork, clouded as it was by a dark age and thousands of years of alternating orthodoxy and strife. The very idea of explaining the mysteries of the HH irks me; and so I will never read them and will never regard them as canonical (in my own 40k universe that is: GW can go on wrecking its own).
I haven't read a single one. That's not the problem. The problem is that I was raised on 40k in the time before the HH books, when HH was a time of myth and legend which could never be understood beyond allusions and guesswork, clouded as it was by a dark age and thousands of years of alternating orthodoxy and strife. The very idea of explaining the mysteries of the HH irks me; and so I will never read them and will never regard them as canonical (in my own 40k universe that is: GW can go on wrecking its own).
Agreed. Eisenhorn > Ravenor, but it's quite a close call. I also really enjoy Gaunt's Ghosts, although I can only comment on the first seven, haven't read the rest.Mezrev said:
I also agree with someone's recommendation of Storm Of Iron by Graham McNeill: was a good story, and I liked how it tied in with his Ultramarine books, though I'm not really a fan of the first three, and I haven't read his newest ones.
The one other I can recommend is Lord Of The Night by Simon Spurrier. I like how viewpoint of that story changes between the two central characters, and the fact that even though one of them was 'bad', I still was able to like him.
Anything Dan Abnett writes is pure gold. I have read all of Gaunt's Ghosts and the Ravenor trilligy. I recommend them both. Double Eagle is also a great read as it deals with air combat in the 40k universe. It comes off as a little more romantic than the grind and missery of regular imperial life, but hey they are flyboys (and girls) what do you expect?
OK, so I'm reading the horus heresy now, does it matter what books I move to next? It all seems very confusing, so if it helps to read book A before book B, I would like to know. Oh, and I love Legion, that book kicked ass. I've tried to find a chronological order of the books online, with no luck. Any pointers?
The chronological order so far isSkinnySlim said:
Horus Rising - Dan Abnett
False Gods - Graham McNeill
Galaxy in Flames - Ben Counter
The Flight of the Eisenstein - James Swallow
Fulgrim - Graham McNeill
Descent of Angels - Mitchel Scanlon
Legion - Dan Abnett
Battle for the Abyss - Ben Counter
Mechanicum - Graham McNeill
Tales of Heresy - Kyme & Priestley
Fallen Angels - Mike Lee
A Thousand Sons - Graham McNeill
Nemesis - James Swallow
The First Heretic - Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Prospero Burns - Dan Abnett
The Age of Darkness - Christian Dunn
But no you don't have to really read any of the Horus Hersey in chronological order (though it can help with the Dark Angels part of the series, and the first 3 books).