Warhammer 40k Vs Dragonball

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TwiZtah

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At last, we have a universe that's able to best the ridiculousness of the WH40K universe.
 

chimeracreator

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Naeras said:
Pyro Paul said:
Goku dies to a Heart Virus.

Nurgle is all pestelence, illness, and sickness combined.

WH40k > GBZ
This. The cyborgs would still pose a problem though, but I bet you could screw them over with some EMP or whatever.

Otherwise, I'll sadly have to admit that DBZ would probably win. When you have to keep 1-upping your bad-guys even after it's been established that the main character is a) the most powerful being in the universe, b) capable of destroying planets by sneezing and c) has GLOWING MANGA HAIR, the stuff in your universe tends to get fairly ridiculous. And while it takes quite a lot to out-ridiculous WH40k, I do think DBZ manages to do it. Especially in the hair department.

Or.. well, the word "Tyranids" just came to mind. I'm suddenly not so sure anymore. :V
Except there are characters like Buu, Freeza and Cell that can survive in a vacuum and blow up planets without breaking a sweat.
 

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Sonicron said:
Hate to say it, but I think Dragonball wins this one. Guys who can singlehandedly destroy half the galaxy, and then there's the namesake artifacts.
"What is your wish?"
"Ohai, powerful magical dragon! Could you do me a solid and wipe out that bothersome Imperium of Man?"
KABOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
"It has been done."
"Kthxbai!"
if i recall the dragon's cant kill anyone with the wish
but yea its not stopping them from doing outer insanely overpowered things
 

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direkiller said:
Sonicron said:
Hate to say it, but I think Dragonball wins this one. Guys who can singlehandedly destroy half the galaxy, and then there's the namesake artifacts.
"What is your wish?"
"Ohai, powerful magical dragon! Could you do me a solid and wipe out that bothersome Imperium of Man?"
KABOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
"It has been done."
"Kthxbai!"
if i recall the dragon's cant kill anyone with the wish
but yea its not stopping them from doing outer insanely overpowered things
Not sure, been a veeeeery long time since I watched DBZ.
Still, they could wish for the Imperium to instantly and irretrievably lose every last shred of technology. Problem solved.
 

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While it never happened, one of the most important plotlines of DBZ was various villainous characters attempting to collect the titular Dragonballs to gain immortality. What would be to stop the characters of DBZ doing the same in this hypothetical and becoming literally unkillable?
 

Robert Ewing

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I dunno... I don't really think you can even compare them.

Dragonball is a story about a seemingly gifted child's life... And a powerfully charming adventure after the testicles of a dragon that grants wishes. Like, it really goes to town on showing his development as a person, and how he begins to understand society, and how he increases in strength to overcome evil. Goku is the absolute idol of goodness in man... Or... Saiyan... But you don't really know that yet. Sure Dragon Ball Z sort of dropped the ball in the excellent storytelling, character development, and just the general experience in favour of epic, and over done fight scenes. And don't get me wrong, those fight scenes are a very strong selling point, but meh.

Dragonball GT tried to pick up where Dragonball left off, as it severely toned down the action, only to have very few episodes with the epic fight scenes in it, but by then it was far too unpopular, and out of place. People had gotten used to the DBZ formula, and the guys who watched the original dragonball had all grown up and generally didn't care, and therefore didn't really watch it.

40k is literally just epic battle after epic battle. Every part of it is epic. From the scale, the politics, the moralities, everything. It's a Tolkien spec universe in every sense of the phrase.

That's why you can't compare them, Dragonball is essentially about one man and his lineage. How he grows up, has a family, saves the world a few times etc. 40k is about entire freaking races, battling it out for... Erm... Well, it varies... But essentially it's the archetypal good vs. Evil with varying shades of grey thrown in. But you get the idea.
 

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Sonicron said:
direkiller said:
Sonicron said:
Hate to say it, but I think Dragonball wins this one. Guys who can singlehandedly destroy half the galaxy, and then there's the namesake artifacts.
"What is your wish?"
"Ohai, powerful magical dragon! Could you do me a solid and wipe out that bothersome Imperium of Man?"
KABOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
"It has been done."
"Kthxbai!"
if i recall the dragon's cant kill anyone with the wish
but yea its not stopping them from doing outer insanely overpowered things
Not sure, been a veeeeery long time since I watched DBZ.
Still, they could wish for the Imperium to instantly and irretrievably lose every last shred of technology. Problem solved.
too much time on my hand I know

the dragons cannot kill anyone moral good or more powerful then there creator and im sure you know how weak they are.
So yea its a rule in place so they have a story
 

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There was this one bad guy in DBZ who once turned an entire city's denizens into candy.

That was pretty rad.
 

Sir Ollie

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I'm not sure. Throw some Angry Marines in there and maybe 40K might pull through.

Who am I kidding, DBZ is OP as hell.
 

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SckizoBoy said:
Xanadu84 said:
Dragonball wins because the powers of DBZ are not limited by a need to be good or interesting. They just grunt louder and destroy a bigger planet.
Bwahahahahaha!! 'Good' he says!! Oh, that's a good one!

/jk

But seriously, there's nothing remotely (morally) 'good' about anything in the WH40K, though I will agree (rather reluctantly) that Dragonball wins because the separate factions of WH40K are limited in a number of ways. One, refusal to accept anything not 'natural' to their faction, two, just as much infighting as fighting whoever the bad guy du jour is, three, knowledge of their own weaknesses and limitations ('Nids and Orks being probably exceptions), and the fact that the most powerful individuals are either half dead and subsist on the souls of a thousand innocent citizens a day or are (for now, at least) kept in an alternate dimension.
I didn't mean morally good. I meant that DBZ just mindlessly throws in the ability to make bigger explosions without worrying if this makes the world more interesting to observe as an audience. It makes the characters more powerful at the expense of story. 40K may be over the top, but it contains the kind of limits required to have a story worth telling.