Warhammer questions.

[TheSEPH88]

Ok so I want to start playing warhammer and I have a few questions.
- First are all of the space marine teams diffirent teams (example space marines, blood ravens, grey knights) or can you use those together (same thing with chaos marines and deamons of chaos).
- Second question, can I costumise my units somewhat or do they follow a "dress code".
- Third question, How do I start a space marine team without going bankrupt.
- Last question what team are you playing (do post paint jobs if you want to).

PS: Sorry for any spelling errors I am kind of tired.

 

[GodsAndFishes]

The space marine chapters are different armies, same with the Chaos marines and Daemons, so you can't use them together (in tournaments anyway, really it just depends on what your opponent says).

Depends on the army really, but a lot of people I know have an overall colour scheme for their army, but slightly different colour schemes for each unit (e.g. different colour shoulder pads).

That is the real question...but I'd say go for second hand armies, thats what I tend to do.

I play Tau and due to my horrendous painting skills, I leave most of them grey.

 

[Fr]anc[is]

Nothing is stopping you from painting a regular Space Marine army however you want, but a bunch of chapters have their own armybooks (and are usually better). Deamons and Chaos marines are currently separate armies, although chaos marines can summon some deamons

Some people are huge WYSIWYG nazis, but you can definitely customize your units. People can do some freaking amazing things with green stuff.

It's an expensive hobby. Get used to it. But you can probably buy pre-owned armies for cheaper.

I tried to start a chaos marine army, but I'm a horrid painter, and I'd run out of funds. I like almost all the armies except Eldar. I like Chaos Marines and Tau the most

 

[TheSEPH88]

I'm gonna answer that in order:

-You can mix units from different armies but there are some rules on how big your 'main' army needs to be before you can start taking auxiliaries from other armies.

-There are recommended unit colours and soldiers have specific equipment within narrow boundaries but colours and looks are up to you entirely! They'll just 'count as' a standard unit regardless of how they look.

-Space marines are a very small army, you'll want two troops choices and an HQ choice (2 squads of 5-10 marines and a commander) and then I'd recommend getting one unit type from each of the 3 optional categories. that'll give you a fast unit, a heavy fire support unit, a tough unit, your 2 basic troops units (no slouches themselves) and your commander.

-Myself I'm a Dark Eldar player, until recently I'd retired my kabalite army and was building a craftworld Eldar army but those new models are brutal looking.

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Thank you for the informative reply and your units looks awesome by the way =P

 

[Temple Guard]

-Space Marines fall into seperate categories. If they have there own codex then that chapter has its own rules that are applied from that codex. (Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, Black Templar, and Space Wolves) Most chapters fall under Codex: Space Marines. Chaos Space Marines can use Daemons but they only count as generic daemons in the Chaos Space Marines codex. Daemons with there own special rules are in the Chaos Daemons codex.

-You can customize your units to a certain degree. The Space Marine model range is easily customizable, however weapon configurations are laid out in the armies respective codex.

-A cheap way to start is picking up the Assault on Black Reach starter set. It comes with 1 Captain, 10 Marines, 5 Terminators, and 1 Dreadnought, dice, templates, and a rule book. It also comes with an Ork army that you could split with a friend or trade with someone else to get there Space Marines. You will also need Codex Space Marines or one of the variants listed in answer one.

-I play Tyranids, Blood Angels Space Marines, Thousand Sons Chaos Space Marines, and Imperial Guard.

There are many other websites like dakkadakka, warseer, or miniwargaming where you can go to ask questions and find out more info from a large collection of Warhammer players.

 

[TheSEPH88]

anc[is]Nothing is stopping you from painting a regular Space Marine army however you want, but a bunch of chapters have their own armybooks (and are usually better). Deamons and Chaos marines are currently separate armies, although chaos marines can summon some deamons

Some people are huge WYSIWYG nazis, but you can definitely customize your units. People can do some freaking amazing things with green stuff.

It's an expensive hobby. Get used to it. But you can probably buy pre-owned armies for cheaper.

I tried to start a chaos marine army, but I'm a horrid painter, and I'd run out of funds. I like almost all the armies except Eldar. I like Chaos Marines and Tau the most

- Yeah at first I figured that the diffirent chapters were diffirent armies but then I heard about some people using them together so that's why I am a bit cofused.
- I meant more in the likes of parts. For example if I get a lot of space marines and I switch the arms between some of them would that be fine. (b.t.w what green stuff).
- I know that it is expensive I just figured if there was some kind of starter package or something.
Sorry if I am missing something obvious =)

 

[TheSEPH88]

-Space Marines fall into seperate categories. If they have there own codex then that chapter has its own rules that are applied from that codex. (Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, Black Templar, and Space Wolves) Most chapters fall under Codex: Space Marines. Chaos Space Marines can use Daemons but they only count as generic daemons in the Chaos Space Marines codex. Daemons with there own special rules are in the Chaos Daemons codex.

-You can customize your units to a certain degree. The Space Marine model range is easily customizable, however weapon configurations are laid out in the armies respective codex.

-A cheap way to start is picking up the Assault on Black Reach starter set. It comes with 1 Captain, 10 Marines, 5 Terminators, and 1 Dreadnought, dice, templates, and a rule book. It also comes with an Ork army that you could split with a friend or trade with someone else to get there Space Marines. You will also need Codex Space Marines or one of the variants listed in answer one.

-I play Tyranids, Blood Angels Space Marines, Thousand Sons Chaos Space Marines, and Imperial Guard.

There are many other websites like dakkadakka, warseer, or miniwargaming where you can go to ask questions and find out more info from a large collection of Warhammer players.

Thanks for the tip I will check out the sites immidietly. =)

 

[tunderball]

-I paint really slow and agonise over the smallest detail and my friend has just started so we have around 750 points each so we combine my Dark Angels with his Space Wolves if we want to fight other people so yeah. Don't get too hung up on the tiny rules just have fun.

-No dress code but I think it looks better if you have a theme running through your army like the same colours instead of having a rainbow army. But hey it's your army so do watever you want. Be wary of weapons though it can get confusing if your battling and they all have amazing weapons on the models but you can't afford them in your army list.

-Tricky, depends on what your budget is the starter packs are pretty good around £50 I think, best advice I can give though is that the paints are the best in the world but are really expensive. So decide what colours you need to paint them before buying.

-I collect Dark Angels Space Marines by the way, I'd like to say that it's because they are a really good army and I like their tactics but really its only because of their bikes. They have wings on them and look really cool.

 

[Paksenarrion]

-No dress code but I think it looks better if you have a theme running through your army like the same colours instead of having a rainbow army.

Did somebody say...Rainbow Army?


4:20

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

- Yeah at first I figured that the diffirent chapters were diffirent armies but then I heard about some people using them together so that's why I am a bit cofused.
- I meant more in the likes of parts. For example if I get a lot of space marines and I switch the arms between some of them would that be fine. (b.t.w what green stuff).
- I know that it is expensive I just figured if there was some kind of starter package or something.
Sorry if I am missing something obvious =)

The different chapters are individual armies, but there is quite a lot of flexibility. You can use units from different chapters in the same army if they are in the same codex e.g i could take marneus calgar (fuck the spelling, he is an ultrasmurf) and captain lysander (from the imperial fists) as your two hq choices in the force organisation chart. in the rorce organisation chart you must have 1 hq and 2 troops choices. you may take an additional i hq, four troops, three elites, three heavy support and three fast attack choices (provided they fall within the points limit you are using in the game)
In large point games e.g 2500 points you can use the detachment system wherin you get two or more force organisation charts and these can be a separate army from a different codex (as long as they could logically ally, so no marines and dark eldar allies).
Then there is apocalypse, 3000 points and above. you can use whatever you think is awesome. I have two baneblade variants in my apocalypse army (that is a huge and awesome tank, look it up)
As for your second question, you can give them any equipment allowed by the codex. (green stuff is this putty you can use for basic joining purposes (makes bonding metal to plastic easier) and it can be used for sculpting purposes (people build entire models out of it)
Assault on black reach is a fantastic starter set. you get a small marine army and a small ork army and a pocket sized main rulebook. If you can get a friend interested who wants to collect orks, you can trade your orks for his marines and bam, decent sized army.
you can get some cheaper minis from independent retailers ebay etc.
As for my armies, Imperial Guard, Grey Knights (the new plastic ones are beautiful, nemesis dreadknight=walking sexiness), Black Templars, White Scars and Tau. I also have an Empire and a Tomb Kings army for fantasy. Been doing it for nearly 9 years now and its awesome.
And the space marine commander boxset comes with a load of bits that fit nicely on lots of different models. And some of the chaplain models are amazing.

 

[TheSEPH88]

- Yeah at first I figured that the diffirent chapters were diffirent armies but then I heard about some people using them together so that's why I am a bit cofused.
- I meant more in the likes of parts. For example if I get a lot of space marines and I switch the arms between some of them would that be fine. (b.t.w what green stuff).
- I know that it is expensive I just figured if there was some kind of starter package or something.
Sorry if I am missing something obvious =)

The different chapters are individual armies, but there is quite a lot of flexibility. You can use units from different chapters in the same army if they are in the same codex e.g i could take marneus calgar (fuck the spelling, he is an ultrasmurf) and captain lysander (from the imperial fists) as your two hq choices in the force organisation chart. in the rorce organisation chart you must have 1 hq and 2 troops choices. you may take an additional i hq, four troops, three elites, three heavy support and three fast attack choices (provided they fall within the points limit you are using in the game)
In large point games e.g 2500 points you can use the detachment system wherin you get two or more force organisation charts and these can be a separate army from a different codex (as long as they could logically ally, so no marines and dark eldar allies).
Then there is apocalypse, 3000 points and above. you can use whatever you think is awesome. I have two baneblade variants in my apocalypse army (that is a huge and awesome tank, look it up)
As for your second question, you can give them any equipment allowed by the codex. (green stuff is this putty you can use for basic joining purposes (makes bonding metal to plastic easier) and it can be used for sculpting purposes (people build entire models out of it)
Assault on black reach is a fantastic starter set. you get a small marine army and a small ork army and a pocket sized main rulebook. If you can get a friend interested who wants to collect orks, you can trade your orks for his marines and bam, decent sized army.
you can get some cheaper minis from independent retailers ebay etc.
As for my armies, Imperial Guard, Grey Knights (the new plastic ones are beautiful, nemesis dreadknight=walking sexiness), Black Templars, White Scars and Tau. I also have an Empire and a Tomb Kings army for fantasy. Been doing it for nearly 9 years now and its awesome.
And the space marine commander boxset comes with a load of bits that fit nicely on lots of different models. And some of the chaplain models are amazing.

Ok thanks for clearing up some confusion.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

-No dress code but I think it looks better if you have a theme running through your army like the same colours instead of having a rainbow army.

Did somebody say...Rainbow Army?


4:20

How about Pretty Marines?

OT:
-Well there are different chapters, but there isn't anything stopping you from fielding several Space Marine chapters in one army so long as you use one Codex (army rulebook). There are several Spess Mehreen chapters that have their own Codexs and you can only use one rulebook for your army (unless your opponent is fine otherwise), but you can always have them "count as" something else.

-Same thing as before. You can customize them to your hearts content (which is one of the nice things about Warhammer and 40k miniatures) so long as you use the correct rules.

-The hobby is expensive. You can buy used or figure out an army list that is easy on the wallet. Just be thankful that you aren't playing Tyranids, Orks, or Imperial Guard. Those armies tend to be much big in size.

-WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
I think that answers that question...