Warner Bros. Already Planning a Suicide Squad Sequel

[Hawki]

Is anyone surprised? Marvel has plans for films until at least the late 2020s. At least this is a sequel, so I can see the rationale for it. If anything, I'm interested in Bright though.

As for Will Smith, after seeing Concussion, I'm very interested in what he's doing nowadays, so there's that.

I don't know what to make of Will Smith. He is a good actor when he wants to be. Look at Pursuit of Happiness, or, as you mentioned, Concussion. The problem is that his action movie roles have all felt... samey lately. When he started his career he was The Fresh Prince, and all of his action roles felt vibrant and energetic. He was cocky, but endearing. Now he's too serious, and has a scowl stuck to his face.

Compare this:

Spoiler

It's like we can see the transformation before our eyes

To this:

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Will Smith is at his best when he doesn't take himself too seriously. I'm curious to see how he handles himself in this, as the straight man surrounded by a bunch of nutters.

All in all, I'm really excited for this movie. Some people will ignore it just because it's DC, but the actual trailer looked pretty good. I'm more excited for this then I am any of the new Marvel films.

I think those examples say more about the movies themselves then Will Smith specifically.

Independence Day and Men in Black are humorous, whether intentionally (MiB) or Independence Day (cheese). Hancock and Suicide Squad (as far as I can tell) seem to have elements of humour, but Hancock was, at least as much as I saw of it, had far more sombre undertones, and Suicide Squad is still based around a...well, suicide squad. We've seen him wisecracking in the trailers a fair amount, but I'm not sure how much resemblance it can be said to have to those other films.

Whether Will Smith can pull off the "cocky guy" character would require comparing something like MiB3 to its predecessors, since it's the same actor playing the same character. Haven't seen MiB3 - have seen Focus though, and he played a cocky con-man character well enough in that.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

What is it with WB counting all their chickens before they have hatched?

 

[Remus]

On a side note, Will Smith in a movie set in the modern day about orcs and fae? SHADOWRUN MOVIE CONFIRMED.

 

[P-89 Scorpion]

Well that's because of two reasons first 2008's 'The Incredible Hulk' bombed and second Marvel was working and being financed with separate companies that may not have been interested in a unified universe.

Of course, neither of those are actually true, so that's a pretty bad argument.

The Incredible Hulk 2008 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=incrediblehulk.htm) $263 million world wide box office on a $150 million budget it lost money that's why there was no sequel.

 

[MCerberus]

This feels less like a GotG/Deadpool "well we've seen the review and have already constructed an addition to the money chamber" move than "oh god please see this movie we've got nothing else. You like this stuff right? RIGHT?!"

See: Green Lantern, Fan-four-tastic

 

[happyninja42]

So they're going for the Green Lantern route? Planning ahead for a sequel before the actual film come out. When it does come out and turns out to be shit, little by little forget that they says about making a sequel.

Well making plans for a sequel isn't that big of a deal in my opinion. Comic book movies have a pretty good track record for being successful. Sure it's not 100%, but I think well over 90% of the ones made are profitable. And with Deadpool showing that comic movies don't have to be Kid Friendly, it's likely that this one will attract a similar crowd, likely in enough quantity to make a profit. So sure, why not at least plan for a sequel. Talk to the actors ahead of time and see if they will be willing/available at the time. Speak to producers to get at least some preliminary ideas on funding, etc. Seems perfectly reasonable. Now if "planning" included "we're already building sets" and other such stuff, then yeah, that's going a bit far.

Well that's because of two reasons first 2008's 'The Incredible Hulk' bombed and second Marvel was working and being financed with separate companies that may not have been interested in a unified universe.

Of course, neither of those are actually true, so that's a pretty bad argument.

The Incredible Hulk 2008 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=incrediblehulk.htm) $263 million world wide box office on a $150 million budget it lost money that's why there was no sequel.

....ok not sure if you mixed up your numbers, but the way you stated those figures, it looks like Hulk almost doubled it's budget, which is the opposite of "lost money", that's making a profit.

 

[Something Amyss]

The Incredible Hulk 2008 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=incrediblehulk.htm) $263 million world wide box office on a $150 million budget it lost money that's why there was no sequel.

I note you left the budget out of that.

....ok not sure if you mixed up your numbers, but the way you stated those figures, it looks like Hulk almost doubled it's budget, which is the opposite of "lost money", that's making a profit.

Nope. On a 150 million dollar budget, it made 263 million worldwide. It looks like the movie almost doubled its budget because it did.

Meanwhile, you have ten movies announced on the back of a movie with a larger budget that did 66 million above production cost.

This feels less like a GotG/Deadpool "well we've seen the review and have already constructed an addition to the money chamber" move than "oh god please see this movie we've got nothing else. You like this stuff right? RIGHT?!"

Well, nothing else but Superman/Batman, MOS2, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, SHAZAM, two Justice League movies, and a rumoured Batfleck movie. Did I leave anything out?

Not sure where the desperation implication comes in.

 

[P-89 Scorpion]

The Incredible Hulk 2008 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=incrediblehulk.htm) $263 million world wide box office on a $150 million budget it lost money that's why there was no sequel.

I note you left the budget out of that.

What? the budget is right there $150 million the film world wide gross is $263 million after the 50-60% the theatre chains take out the studio received less than then $150 million they spent making the film not to mention what ever the marketing/distribution budget was.

 

[P-89 Scorpion]

The Incredible Hulk 2008 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=incrediblehulk.htm) $263 million world wide box office on a $150 million budget it lost money that's why there was no sequel.

....ok not sure if you mixed up your numbers, but the way you stated those figures, it looks like Hulk almost doubled it's budget, which is the opposite of "lost money", that's making a profit.

The film cost the studio $150 million

The film brought in $263 million world wide

The theatre chains take 50-60%

The studio saw at best a return of $132 million

The studio lost money

 

[Something Amyss]

What? the budget is right there $150 million the film world wide gross is $263 million after the 50-60% the theatre chains take out the studio received less than then $150 million they spent making the film not to mention what ever the marketing/distribution budget was.

And then the point remains that Man of Steel would have lost significantly more, having earned half the amount over its budget Hulk did, and ten films were announced on its back.

Your argument is special pleading, even if we ignore the asspulled mathematics you're adding to the equation after the fact. Apples to apples, Superman was a bigger loss.

 

[P-89 Scorpion]

And then the point remains that Man of Steel would have lost significantly more, having earned half the amount over its budget Hulk did, and ten films were announced on its back.

Your argument is special pleading, even if we ignore the asspulled mathematics you're adding to the equation after the fact. Apples to apples, Superman was a bigger loss.

What? what asspulled mathematics? go look it up.

And how did Man of Steel have a loss? $225 million budget and world wide gross of $668 million.

 

[Spider RedNight]

Wh... Suicide SPOILER ALERT!! Damn!

And here I thought everyone was gonna die because it's called "SUICIDE Squad". :c WAFL

All I have to say is "so?" Let them make a sequel; Hollywood wastes money all the time

 

[Orga777]

The Incredible Hulk 2008 (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=incrediblehulk.htm) $263 million world wide box office on a $150 million budget it lost money that's why there was no sequel.

....ok not sure if you mixed up your numbers, but the way you stated those figures, it looks like Hulk almost doubled it's budget, which is the opposite of "lost money", that's making a profit.

The film cost the studio $150 million

The film brought in $263 million world wide

The theatre chains take 50-60%

The studio saw at best a return of $132 million

The studio lost money

Theaters do not take 50-60%, at best they get 80% of a single ticket sale about 6 weeks into a movies run, which is basically nothing. Usually when movies open (when they make all their money), theaters get barely anything, and if it is a bigger release like Star Wars or a Marvel movie, they may get 0% per ticket sale during opening weekend. The reason concessions are so expensive is because that is the only way they make any real money to keep existing. Now, the budget does not include marketing, which DOES cut into revenue of the movie, but theaters are constantly abused by Hollywood, and don't cut into their revenue at all.

Also, as for the Hulk, the rights are tied up in a weird way where Marvel is not allowed to make a solo Hulk movie, which also prevents a sequel from happening. :/ It has little to do with how much the first movie made (which isn't that good, obviously compared to the rest of the Marvel films.)

 

[P-89 Scorpion]

Theaters do not take 50-60%, at best they get 80% of a single ticket sale about 6 weeks into a movies run, which is basically nothing. Usually when movies open (when they make all their money), theaters get barely anything, and if it is a bigger release like Star Wars or a Marvel movie, they may get 0% per ticket sale during opening weekend. The reason concessions are so expensive is because that is the only way they make any real money to keep existing. Now, the budget does not include marketing, which DOES cut into revenue of the movie, but theaters are constantly abused by Hollywood, and don't cut into their revenue at all.

Also, as for the Hulk, the rights are tied up in a weird way where Marvel is not allowed to make a solo Hulk movie, which also prevents a sequel from happening. :/ It has little to do with how much the first movie made (which isn't that good, obviously compared to the rest of the Marvel films.)

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't know where you got that information but it's wrong especially in non US cinema's.

 

[PBMcNair]

Dubbed Bright, the supernatural thriller will see Smith "Set in a world where orcs and fairies live among humans...and boasts a unique protagonist in the form of an orc cop."

Shadowrun would like a word.

But I'll keep an eye out anyway.

 

[DoubleU12]

This isn't news. Did anyone learn of this movie and honestly thought there wouldn't be sequels until it stopped being profitable? XD

 

[Vigormortis]

Couple of thoughts:

1: Why is this news?

2: Why is everyone surprised?

3: Why is everyone acting as though this is some idiotic move that is exclusive to Warner Bros?

Pre-planning sequels to tent-pole films is something every studio does. Every one of them. It happens with virtually every film like this, especially if the plan is to build a franchise. And besides, making films of this size takes time and money. Thing that must be planned for well in advance.

Jesus-fucking-christ, people. I get that this community has a nerd-boner for Marvel, and by corollary hates DC, but can we dispense with the one-sided bullshit? Damn...

 

[Callate]

I'd kind of like SS and BvSoJ to be good. I'm not usually a fan of watching hundreds of millions lost and careers torpedoed, despite occasional moments of schaudenfreude when really big egos are involved. And it would be nice to believe that there is a way to do superhero continuity other than "the Marvel Way".

But, y'know, counting chickens? That's an awful lot of moviegoer eyeballs they seem to think they have sewn up.