You say Japan was genocidal yet you ignore the fact two nukes wiped out far more than the US had lost and you claim 9/11 was done during a time of peace and that they got no warning but you people never warned the Japanese about nuking them not once even when you aired flyers dropping leaflets for them to evacuate did you never mention nuking them and not to mention you wiped those who wished to live out in the fraction of an instant.OutrageousEmu said:Here's a concept you may or may not understand. There is this thing called war. In it, a country that is fanatical, genocidal and imperial is one that is dealt with by any means necessary. Japan at the time was unquestionably all three, something you seem to have forgotten. You don't just say right or wrong as if thats even close to an argument, thats sociopathy. It neuters an act of self defence as if it were an attack, and relegates any death as being equally punishable regardless of intent. And yet, in any and all cultural representations of it, the parralel event is invariably depicted as random and with Japan having done nothing to incur this wrath. Which is akin to the Germans saying the Allies were totally picking on the Nazi's, who did nothing wrong at all.
By contrast, 9/11 was done in a time of peace, with no warning, and with no sane outcome apart from just the slaughter of innocents.
Money, dear boy. $57.5 million box office out of a $30 million dollar budget. As far as Fox is concerned, that would be "reasonably successful". Sure, sequel potential is zero, so Fox seems to have not attempted to try again. Still, I'll be willing to bet that's why we're talking about a live-action adaption of Akira today.NameIsRobertPaulson said:Reasonably successful? It won 2 Razzies. It was called by a professional critic: "Did to Anime fans what the Kennedy Assassination did to American Life."Delusibeta said:Point D still applies however: I'd imagine the posters will resemble those of Dragon Ball Evolution, and we all know how that went down.OutrageousEmu said:That requires the reason they don't watch anime is because they just coincidentally hate all the stories told by anime, instead of it being because they don't like or appreciate anime as a style. If its live action, the barrier for these people is removed.Delusibeta said:The problem with that argument is that calling this film "Akira" would put off the people who don't watch anime.OutrageousEmu said:No, it was an anime. As much as Otaku may say its an act akin to genocide and the greatest injustice of all creation, there are a lot of people who simply don't watch anime.
In fact, Dragon Ball Evolution seems to be the model this film is taking, and while that was reasonably successful, I doubt lightning will strike twice.
I would not call that a success.
Whatever point you try to make it will not sway in your favor because i still see many possibilities that could have been attempted but i feel as if you now hold some sort of grudge.OutrageousEmu said:Hirohito was warned of the destruction that would be brought upon Japan and given ample time to surrender. He decided not to tell his people, believing it a bluff. The emperor was wrned of the pain that would be put upon his people, but he decided to ignore it, deeming the threat to the people who trusted him not worthy of his surrender. When given the option to surrender a second time, he told the US "Go fuck yourselves". One nations actions were done to end a war. The others were done to end a human race. Intent shows genocide, not numbers.Shadow-Phoenix said:You say Japan was genocidal yet you ignore the fact two nukes wiped out far more than the US had lost and you claim 9/11 was done during a time of peace and that they got no warning but you people never warned the Japanese about nuking them not once even when you aired flyers dropping leaflets for them to evacuate did you never mention nuking them and not to mention you wiped those who wished to live out in the fraction of an instant.OutrageousEmu said:Here's a concept you may or may not understand. There is this thing called war. In it, a country that is fanatical, genocidal and imperial is one that is dealt with by any means necessary. Japan at the time was unquestionably all three, something you seem to have forgotten. You don't just say right or wrong as if thats even close to an argument, thats sociopathy. It neuters an act of self defence as if it were an attack, and relegates any death as being equally punishable regardless of intent. And yet, in any and all cultural representations of it, the parralel event is invariably depicted as random and with Japan having done nothing to incur this wrath. Which is akin to the Germans saying the Allies were totally picking on the Nazi's, who did nothing wrong at all.
By contrast, 9/11 was done in a time of peace, with no warning, and with no sane outcome apart from just the slaughter of innocents.
As for not telling him about the bomb, the manhattan project was one of the most closely guarded military secrets in the world. You cannot reveal that sort of thing to another head of state, it tips ones hand in a war.
Oh, and if we want to talk slaughters, how were those Chinese causalties by the Japanese in the Rape of Nanking? That show any signs of genocide? Tens of thousands of civilians slaughtered by hand, thousands of women raped, a death toll that reaches 300,000?
How about "because when American directors try to adapt from anime and manga sources, we get the likes of Speed Racer, Dragonball: Evolution, Priest, and The Last Airbender?"Histrionics aside, would anyone like to point out solid, concrete reasons why this thing is going to be terrible?