Warner Brothers Studios WTF

[jackpackage200]

In case some of of you have not heard. warner brothers is doing this new thing called Ultraviolet Digital Copy instead of the original digital copy. What it requires you to do is register for both flixter and ultraviolet so you can stream the movie for a limited time on a registered device. You do not actually own the movie like you would on itunes. If this is their strategy for combating piracy, not only will it not work it will piss people off.

I just learned about this today after buying Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 Blu Ray. I feel like i got robbed.

what are your guys thoughts

Edit: Lol i went on a rant

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Hey you know what could easily solve this? Pirating it.
Why do people not fix the source of Piracy. By lowering the price of of their products they will make more money.

Almost this?

You cant say the way to reduce piracy is to lower prices. If something is too expensive you dont steal it, you find someone who isnt a dick to sell it to you, or you do without.

Instead dont treat your customers like thieves. Provide a service as good or better than the ones the pirates get with no annoying DRM, ads, or copyright warnings. Treat them well, let them have the same perks as a pirate, give the pirate no reason to pirate at all. Maybe lower prices if they are extortionate, but hey, media is expensive. If you cant afford it, deal with it, i cant afford a lot of nice things. I deal with it, so should you. Dont steal.

Dont the companies see that pirates have NO issues with DRM because they have beaten it? And us paying customers do? I dont advocate piracy ever, but seriously companies, stop being so scummy, capitolism means someone should have come along by now with good DRM that doesnt interfere at all with a good customer experience and OWNED the market. Im still waiting.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Hey you know what could easily solve this? Pirating it.
Why do people not fix the source of Piracy. By lowering the price of of their products they will make more money.

Almost this?

You cant say the way to reduce piracy is to lower prices. If something is too expensive you dont steal it, you find someone who isnt a dick to sell it to you, or you do without.

Instead dont treat your customers like thieves. Provide a service as good or better than the ones the pirates get with no annoying DRM, ads, or copyright warnings. Treat them well, let them have the same perks as a pirate, give the pirate no reason to pirate at all. Maybe lower prices if they are extortionate, but hey, media is expensive. If you cant afford it, deal with it, i cant afford a lot of nice things. I deal with it, so should you. Dont steal.

I'm just saying that most the reason people pirate is because the price. With lower prices more people will be willing to buy the game.
Also it will be hard to provide a service better then downloading a game in 15 minutes after thinking about getting it. Steam is a service that has good reasons for you not to pirate.

[sub]EDIT: Crap. To anyone wondering for my above post I don't condone pirating. I should have added context.[/sub]

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Hey you know what could easily solve this? Pirating it.
Why do people not fix the source of Piracy. By lowering the price of of their products they will make more money.

Almost this?

You cant say the way to reduce piracy is to lower prices. If something is too expensive you dont steal it, you find someone who isnt a dick to sell it to you, or you do without.

Instead dont treat your customers like thieves. Provide a service as good or better than the ones the pirates get with no annoying DRM, ads, or copyright warnings. Treat them well, let them have the same perks as a pirate, give the pirate no reason to pirate at all. Maybe lower prices if they are extortionate, but hey, media is expensive. If you cant afford it, deal with it, i cant afford a lot of nice things. I deal with it, so should you. Dont steal.

I'm just saying that most the reason people pirate is because the price. With lower prices more people will be willing to buy the game.
Also it will be hard to provide a service better then downloading a game in 15 minutes after thinking about getting it. Steam is a service that has good reasons for you not to pirate.

I was typing this with steam in mind. They provide a service better than pirating it, thus making buying a better option without stupid DRM and treating us all like thieves. Brilliant system, brilliant company. I couldnt want a movie/music version more.

 

[MirkoP]

That's the weirdest bullsh!t I've heard in a while.Maybe they want to piss people off for giving them money lol

 

[Vault101]

hard copy FTW...

I mean everyone loves to talk about a future where then are no hard copys...but I dont see how it would be any better if we had to put up with shit like this

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I've been wondering what that Ultraviolet thing was. Aren't there other versions of the DVD/Blu-Ray that don't have it though? Or are your options 'movie only, 1-disc' or, 'movie + bad-ass extras and, ultraviolet'? You know, other than the DVD packs with years 1-X

 

[chowderface]

Hey you know what could easily solve this? Pirating it.
Why do people not fix the source of Piracy. By lowering the price of of their products they will make more money.

Almost this?

You cant say the way to reduce piracy is to lower prices. If something is too expensive you dont steal it, you find someone who isnt a dick to sell it to you, or you do without.

Instead dont treat your customers like thieves. Provide a service as good or better than the ones the pirates get with no annoying DRM, ads, or copyright warnings. Treat them well, let them have the same perks as a pirate, give the pirate no reason to pirate at all. Maybe lower prices if they are extortionate, but hey, media is expensive. If you cant afford it, deal with it, i cant afford a lot of nice things. I deal with it, so should you. Dont steal.

Dont the companies see that pirates have NO issues with DRM because they have beaten it? And us paying customers do? I dont advocate piracy ever, but seriously companies, stop being so scummy, capitolism means someone should have come along by now with good DRM that doesnt interfere at all with a good customer experience and OWNED the market. Im still waiting.

Batman: Arkham Asylum (I think it was Arkham Asylum? I donno, I haven't played a Batman game in years) had a pretty good anti-piracy measure. There was no crazy DRM and the game worked perfectly whether it was pirated or not. The only difference was that one of your Bat-abilities didn't work if the game was pirated, so up to a certain point you just couldn't progress, because the tool you needed to get past didn't work.

They've had the capacity to check for whether or not your game was pirated since like the SNES era; all they have to do is USE it.

 

[Xanthious]

Here's the full story... http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/11/your-movie-on-every-platform-sort-of-for-a-while-how-the-new-ultraviolet-drm-fails.ars

We still don't know what happens after a year so I think you may need to put the pipe down, you're getting paranoid

Holy shit! That sounds like an absolute pain in the ass! It boggles my mind that any movie studio would believe that mess of a platform is going to combat piracy one bit.

When people pirate a movie they download it and it's their's to watch on whichever platform they care to move it to. If they have a program like TVersity they can stream it to any device they want. There are no restrictions. Bottom line it's the picture of convenience in every conceivable way scratch the many sleepless nights you will experience racked with guilt over illegally downloading a movie.

That Flixter platform fails to offer the paying customer one single advantage over a pirated copy. Other than "doing the right thing" there is zero reason for someone to choose the Flixster platform over just pirating the damn thing. It's all stick and absolutely no carrot.

What they should be offering is a clean unrestricted digital copy much like you'd get from a torrent or other such means of download. Offer the ability to stream it in multiple resolutions to any device that can connect to the internet. Offer the ability to download it multiple times to multiple devices much like Steam does with PC games. Give people an actual reason besides "doing the right thing" to choose their product over piracy.

The bottom line is pirates are going to pirate. They can no sooner stop that than they can stop the sun from rising. By screwing over their precious few paying customers with these draconian means of fighting piracy they are only encouraging more people to stop paying and just pirate it because on top of being free it's also a superior product. . . that is it's superior if you don't mind spending an eternity in the fiery depths of hell for your sinful ways.

 

[Wushu Panda]

In case some of of you have not heard. warner brothers is doing this new thing called Ultraviolet Digital Copy instead of the original digital copy. What it requires you to do is register for both flixter and ultraviolet so you can stream the movie for a limited time on a registered device. You do not actually own the movie like you would on itunes. If this is their strategy for combating piracy, not only will it not work it will piss people off.

I just learned about this today after buying Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 Blu Ray. I feel like i got robbed.

what are your guys thoughts

Edit: Lol i went on a rant

I think you were letting yourself get robbed once you opted to start buying blue-rays.

 

[Wushu Panda]

I think you were letting yourself get robbed once you opted to start buying blue-rays.

Sir, you do not know what you're saying! Shaddup! *Smack*

Sure, buying old movies on Blu-ray isn't much different than DVD (better sound though) but the newer movies shot in HD are awesome! You can now see every wrinkle on a porn actress' face before it's covered in the highest definition jizz you've ever seen

BWAHAHA! ok, that not only made me laught but can be a pretty decent selling point.

But for right now, blue-ray still seems a bit too expensive for only minor improvements, especially in this terrible economy. likewise, feels more like a side step than any actual progress in media storage.

not to mention a gimmick added to PS3 so they could stay alive versus the xbox 360.

 

[Krion_Vark]

In case some of of you have not heard. warner brothers is doing this new thing called Ultraviolet Digital Copy instead of the original digital copy. What it requires you to do is register for both flixter and ultraviolet so you can stream the movie for a limited time on a registered device. You do not actually own the movie like you would on itunes. If this is their strategy for combating piracy, not only will it not work it will piss people off.

I just learned about this today after buying Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 Blu Ray. I feel like i got robbed.

what are your guys thoughts

Edit: Lol i went on a rant

I think you were letting yourself get robbed once you opted to start buying blue-rays.

The versions I usually buy are Blu-Ray, DvD and Digital Copy. for $30 so I get 3 versions of the movie for 10 dollars a piece and if I have to use this flixster thing I am not going to be pleased with it at all.

 

[Rigs83]

So I won't be buying Warner Brother movies anymore. OK

 

[Something Amyss]

In case some of of you have not heard. warner brothers is doing this new thing called Ultraviolet Digital Copy instead of the original digital copy. What it requires you to do is register for both flixter and ultraviolet so you can stream the movie for a limited time on a registered device. You do not actually own the movie like you would on itunes. If this is their strategy for combating piracy, not only will it not work it will piss people off.

I just learned about this today after buying Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 Blu Ray. I feel like i got robbed.

what are your guys thoughts

Edit: Lol i went on a rant

You don't own anything on iTunes, either.

The only difference would be the amount of time it's licensed, not ownership.

 

[Wushu Panda]

I think you were letting yourself get robbed once you opted to start buying blue-rays.

The versions I usually buy are Blu-Ray, DvD and Digital Copy. for $30 so I get 3 versions of the movie for 10 dollars a piece and if I have to use this flixster thing I am not going to be pleased with it at all.

This reminded me of something. Couldnt find a clip, so youll have to seetle with a simple quote, from Futurama.

Dr. Zoidberg: Only $14.99 for a two-record set. Two records! Oh, Zoidberg, at last you're becoming a crafty consumer! Hello? I'll take eight!

The only people I know who buy blue-rays do so because they have a PS3. Which gives me the opinion that not many people are exactly rushing into stores to buy blue-ray players. Thus, the DVD is in no immediate danger of being replaced.

Why do you need 3 copies of the same movie? Sure, $10 for a blue-ray is a good deal, but forcing you to pay for the same DVD and $10 for a digital copy? I think thats ridiculous and Id rather acquire digital copies through...other methods. I hadnt known they sell those bundles, but it definitely doesnt make it sound appealing. Im fine with buying DVDs and my other methods for the time being.

 

[estoria-etnia]

I think you were letting yourself get robbed once you opted to start buying blue-rays.

The versions I usually buy are Blu-Ray, DvD and Digital Copy. for $30 so I get 3 versions of the movie for 10 dollars a piece and if I have to use this flixster thing I am not going to be pleased with it at all.

This reminded me of something. Couldnt find a clip, so youll have to seetle with a simple quote, from Futurama.

Dr. Zoidberg: Only $14.99 for a two-record set. Two records! Oh, Zoidberg, at last you're becoming a crafty consumer! Hello? I'll take eight!

The only people I know who buy blue-rays do so because they have a PS3. Which gives me the opinion that not many people are exactly rushing into stores to buy blue-ray players. Thus, the DVD is in no immediate danger of being replaced.

Why do you need 3 copies of the same movie? Sure, $10 for a blue-ray is a good deal, but forcing you to pay for the same DVD and $10 for a digital copy? I think thats ridiculous and Id rather acquire digital copies through...other methods. I hadnt known they sell those bundles, but it definitely doesnt make it sound appealing. Im fine with buying DVDs and my other methods for the time being.

I buy the bundles to put the digital copy on my laptop and have the BluRay for when I'm at home and the DVD copy for when I'm out of town or something. It's flexible.