Was Freud Right?

[mrhappyface]

I did a bit of reading about dreams, and I came across two theories about dreams: The first one was Freud's theory which stated that dreams represent subconcious desires and the second theory states that dreams are a way of reorganizing your memories. Which do you think is right? If he is right, then it would be quite strange...

 

[ribonuge]

Try lucid dreaming and find out for yourself.

To be more direct though, both of those theories could be viable. Dreams most definitely help you to remember things, and are crucial to long term memory. I'm not an expert but I am fascinated by dreaming.

Edit:

Spoiler: Here - Be sure to watch the 6 parts, it brings you up to date with current knowledge of why we sleep. Quite interesting too

 

[mrhappyface]

Try lucid dreaming and find out for yourself. I know a good video on dreams that I can post in a moment.

To be more direct though, both of those theories could be viable. Dreams most definitely help you to remember things, and are crucial to long term memory. I'm not an expert but I am fascinated by dreaming.

Usually bizarre recreations of my daily life.

 

[mrhappyface]

That was pretty good. Thanks, Continuum.

 

[ribonuge]

That was pretty good. Thanks, Continuum.

All in a night's work. Now to sleep.

 

[Shenanigans176]

This is why we dream... maybe... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine]

I really don't know what to think about this DMT, but it's at least interesting to read about. I didn't actually read what the glorious wiki has to say here, but it's a hallucinogenic, and some scientists believe that it causes dreaming.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I think dreams certainly represent the subconcious, but not always desires.

I certainly don't desire to have my head crushed in a vice, bleed to death out my eyes or get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

 

[Jaranja]

I'm thinking Freud is closer to the truth but it's a lot deeper than that.

Reading dreams is easier if they're addressing feelings.

 

[Jaranja]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

 

[Sion_Barzahd]

Freud was wrong about a lot of things, many of his theories being drawn from insight into himself alone.

Though both theories are valid and i've read other interesting theories too. i'll see if i can link an article later.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

Maybe.

Or it could have something to do with living on a dodgy street and having to hurry home past gangsters, junkies and violent drunks most nights.

 

[Jaranja]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

Maybe.

Or it could have something to do with living on a dodgy street and having to hurry home past gangsters, junkies and violent drunks most nights.

Your subconscious doesn't tend to deal with obvious things.

Although, it could also mean you're ashamed of something that's happened in the past. If the attackers are coming from behind (don't you dare), that is.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

Maybe.

Or it could have something to do with living on a dodgy street and having to hurry home past gangsters, junkies and violent drunks most nights.

Your subconscious doesn't tend to deal with obvious things.

Although, it could also mean you're ashamed of something that's happened in the past. If the attackers are coming from behind (don't you dare), that is.

If I was the kind of fellow who indulged in some 'coming from behind' fun, I would most certainly not be ahsamed of it.

NAh... seriously though. T'would be interesting to find good interpretations for dreams/nightmares. What you're saying does make sense.

 

[Jaranja]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

Maybe.

Or it could have something to do with living on a dodgy street and having to hurry home past gangsters, junkies and violent drunks most nights.

Your subconscious doesn't tend to deal with obvious things.

Although, it could also mean you're ashamed of something that's happened in the past. If the attackers are coming from behind (don't you dare), that is.

If I was the kind of fellow who indulged in some 'coming from behind' fun, I would most certainly not be ahsamed of it.

NAh... seriously though. T'would be interesting to find good interpretations for dreams/nightmares. What you're saying does make sense.

I don't know. I've always looked at dreams in showing our feelings and it does make sense.

 

[Acier]

Freud was wrong about nearly everything he did. Or aat the very least wasn't right (his theories were so vague that you couldn't prove them wrong)

I think the widespread popularity of "dream reading" is just our natural curiosity and willingness to apply meaning to a seemingly random image. Doesn't mean it's wrong

What the visual dreams actually are is up for debate, but the general consensus among psychologists today is that it your brain sorting out memories or new knowledge from that day and a necessary part of cognitive function, which actually suffer with dream depravation (no not just sleep, actually dream depravation)

 

[MiracleOfSound]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

Maybe.

Or it could have something to do with living on a dodgy street and having to hurry home past gangsters, junkies and violent drunks most nights.

Your subconscious doesn't tend to deal with obvious things.

Although, it could also mean you're ashamed of something that's happened in the past. If the attackers are coming from behind (don't you dare), that is.

If I was the kind of fellow who indulged in some 'coming from behind' fun, I would most certainly not be ahsamed of it.

NAh... seriously though. T'would be interesting to find good interpretations for dreams/nightmares. What you're saying does make sense.

I don't know. I've always looked at dreams in showing our feelings and it does make sense.

I know, I was agreeing with you! lol.

I'm off to sleep now, it's 3a.m. and the ominous attackers are waiting for me...

 

[razer17]

get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.

Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?

no, no you did not. No offense, but Freudian dream analysis has literally no actual support to prove it is working. I recently did a team research report on the subject of Freud's theories for one of my uni assignments.

To be fair to him, he did start a lot of investigation into stuff like the unconscious mind, which almost certainly exists, however interpreting anything that comes from it is nigh on impossible. Occasionally we can read stuff. Recurring nightmares can be a sign of trauma, however it doesnt really get more accurate than that with Freudian dream analysis. And i spent hours trawling through research reports and text books to find supporting evidence for his dream analysis so i could present a two sided argument in my report. I found next to nothing valid.

As for your actual interpretation, it works much the way that psychics do. You propose a theory that could be valid, and does fit with the story, but in reality it's just a guess that you've developed to fit the story.

 

[bluepilot]

I think that Freud developed a lot of pseudo-scientific theories, that are almost impossible to prove. In the future, as technology develops, I think is may be possible to develop his ideas further.

I personally believe that dreams are a way of organising memories and a messege from the sub-soncious side of the brain. However, as there is no real scientic reasoning, I will also concur that any interpretation of a dream is just that. An interpretation and nothing more.

Here is one of my dreams for your psycics in training.

I am walking past a shop window, the shop inside is dark but I can see in the middle of the shop a beautiful pink dress with sequins and a gold handbag. I really want the dress.

 

[JayDub147]

I think there was a NOVA special on this... Anyway, the second one's probably more likely.

Besides, I know I certainly didn't desire for those clowns to be in my dream. *shudder*
Nightmares suck.