Was Freud Right?

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Azure-Supernova

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Why can't they just be entertainment for the sleeping?

In all seriousness, it seems to depend. Sometimes they represent desires, other time they seem to be fears. Other times it's events that have already happened, sometimes it's things that are going to happen (don't tell me you've never dreamt the future before).
 

Berethond

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bluepilot said:
I think that Freud developed a lot of pseudo-scientific theories, that are almost impossible to prove. In the future, as technology develops, I think is may be possible to develop his ideas further.

I personally believe that dreams are a way of organising memories and a messege from the sub-soncious side of the brain. However, as there is no real scientic reasoning, I will also concur that any interpretation of a dream is just that. An interpretation and nothing more.

Here is one of my dreams for your psycics in training.

I am walking past a shop window, the shop inside is dark but I can see in the middle of the shop a beautiful pink dress with sequins and a gold handbag. I really want the dress.
You intensely covet a bright, easy way to express your inner femininity.
 

Altorin

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Freud was right about a large number of things, but he was basically the first classical psychiatrist, so he had to wing a lot of stuff, and come up with ideas on his own.

So he's wrong about a lot of things. I think he's wrong about this as well. Dreams probably don't serve any purpose other then sorting memories.
 

manythings

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The whole sorting out memories thing is crap (real scientists and neurologists say it not just me). I never had any amalgam of situations in my life that could be put together to equal me having spider-man's powers and using them to steal cake from children. To make it worse I didn't even want the cake I was just stealing it to be a jerk.
 

Altorin

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manythings said:
The whole sorting out memories thing is crap (real scientists and neurologists say it not just me). I never had any amalgam of situations in my life that could be put together to equal me having spider-man's powers and using them to steal cake from children. To make it worse I didn't even want the cake I was just stealing it to be a jerk.
if you're going to call it crap and say science is behind you, post a link.
 

Trivun

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I have no idea, because I don't dream. I daydream, which in turn makes for some great writing projects. But I don't dream when sleeping. So whatever Freud has to say on the subject, I have no idea who's right and wrong...
 

Biosophilogical

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I like my (so far as I know) unproven and unbacked-by-evidence theory. Dreaming is our subconscious, as when we are sleeping our regular conscious mind doesn't take priority ... anyway, that is just my completely unsupported and rather desired idea of dreaming (in actuality it is probably something completely different I am just being optimistic). It would also explain why people dream the future (on occassion), because without your regular thought processes cluttering up your mind your brain can properly evaluate situations and create likely outcomes, even going so far as to empathise better with other points of view, which can help determine how others might react.

Once again, this is all guess-work (and optimistic, narrow-minded guess-work at that).
 

manythings

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Post a link? but that sounds like work. Dreaming is in the same category of things as yawning. Stuff we just don't get. The only thing I can remember off the top of my head is a cracked article but I think that had some useful links attached to it.

http://www.cracked.com/article/161_6-things-your-body-does-every-day-that-science-cant-explain/

Also while you're looking these course sound bad ass.

http://www.cracked.com/article/18367_6-insane-fan-theories-that-actually-make-great-movies-better/
 

DrunkWithPower

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Jung had theories that were better. But I do agree with a few things he says, minus the Oedipus complex and cocaine.
 

Altorin

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manythings said:
Post a link? but that sounds like work. Dreaming is in the same category of things as yawning. Stuff we just don't get. The only thing I can remember off the top of my head is a cracked article but I think that had some useful links attached to it.

http://www.cracked.com/article/161_6-things-your-body-does-every-day-that-science-cant-explain/

Also while you're looking these course sound bad ass.

http://www.cracked.com/article/18367_6-insane-fan-theories-that-actually-make-great-movies-better/
lol, cracked.
 

Jaranja

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Jaranja said:
MiracleOfSound said:
get chased by ominous attackers while rooted to the spot.
Shows that you're frightened of the future. In my opinion anyway because a lot of people have that dream.

You can't avoid the future- you're rooted in place.
Attackers coming towards you- They're coming and you can't avoid it.

Did I do well?
no, no you did not. No offense, but Freudian dream analysis has literally no actual support to prove it is working. I recently did a team research report on the subject of Freud's theories for one of my uni assignments.

To be fair to him, he did start a lot of investigation into stuff like the unconscious mind, which almost certainly exists, however interpreting anything that comes from it is nigh on impossible. Occasionally we can read stuff. Recurring nightmares can be a sign of trauma, however it doesnt really get more accurate than that with Freudian dream analysis. And i spent hours trawling through research reports and text books to find supporting evidence for his dream analysis so i could present a two sided argument in my report. I found next to nothing valid.

As for your actual interpretation, it works much the way that psychics do. You propose a theory that could be valid, and does fit with the story, but in reality it's just a guess that you've developed to fit the story.
Well of course. There's no other way to analyse dreams. At the moment, it's all very "What you see" instead of the truth.
 

Dark Knifer

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Well, my dreams make me remember things in advance. So I dream something, that exact situation happens and I purposely do it differently, becuase it's fun. Also the subconcious desires bit sounds right. I had dream I was serj tankian performing live with a reformed system... God, that was epic...
 

Xette

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Keep in mind Freud masturbated babies to see if they enjoyed it. He's a fucked up cookie and I don't think everything he says is accurate.

I think it's the brain defragging.
 

Kortney

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Freud has been discredited on many of his theories to my knowledge. I have no idea about this one.
 

Rafe

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Freud's theory on dreams leaking from the subconscious mind could be true, but all that bull about the Oedipus and Electra Complex's put me off him a bit.

He was more of a Philosopher than Psychologist in my opinion.
 

WayOutThere

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Is Freud right about dreams? Hell the fuck no. This whole "dream interpretation" thing is nonsense that has plegged us too long. Could the whole thing be less scientific?

The real direction we need to go in to understand dreams is to hypothesize that they serve physiological purpose and not a psychological one.