Was it Homophobic?

[BanthaFodder]

my thoughts exactly. this is why I can't stand the try hards and attention seekers. I get it. you're gay. I honestly could not care less. you do not need to be up in my face about it. these kinds of people just piss me off....

I really hate it when I see straight white people holding hands in public. Or when straight white boys on internet forums post hundreds of posts about the hottest females in a video game or real life. Ugh, I get it. I honestly could not care less. They don't need to be up in my face about it. These kinds of people just piss me off....

no no, you misunderstand good sir. I have no problem with gay couples holding hands, or kissing, or anything like that. what annoys me is the people (not only gay people) that have the general "AM I UPSETTING YOU? WELL YOU NEED TA DEEEEEL WITH IT!!!!!!" attitude. case in point, there's a guy at my school who fashoned a bow (think Ms. Pacman) out of police tape. yeah, he's TOTALLY NOT begging for attention... I have NO problem with homosexuals of any gender, race, etc. I just have a problem with the people who look for attention. it would be the same if I, as a gamer, wore this:http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/pac_man_hat_f.jpg in public just to get attention.

 

[Johanthemonster666]

Straight people need to stop complaining about gay couples holding hands, kissing and being represented in the media.

We have to put up with seeing you guys smooching in public, hugging, and of course seeing the human body (mostly female) on full display or partially clothed just about everywhere.

Sexual diversity is just as important as racial,ethnic or religious diversity. The argument that "you guys just need to keep your 'gayness' on the down-low" fails when you realize that masculinity, sexual orientation, and gender roles are not standardized despite what you might think is "normal".

There's no such thing, and if a company or organization wants to display two men or two women kissing to bring attention to their cause or product... there's nothing for you to complain about.

"I think it's creepy when I find out a guy I shower with is gay" Oh? Do you honestly think you're so hot that men can't resist you? Someone sure full of themselves and probably has something to hide since they're so concerned about "who sleeps with who".

 

[BellHooks]

no no, you misunderstand good sir. I have no problem with gay couples holding hands, or kissing, or anything like that. what annoys me is the people (not only gay people) that have the general "AM I UPSETTING YOU? WELL YOU NEED TA DEEEEEL WITH IT!!!!!!" attitude. case in point, there's a guy at my school who fashoned a bow (think Ms. Pacman) out of police tape. yeah, he's TOTALLY NOT begging for attention... I have NO problem with homosexuals of any gender, race, etc. I just have a problem with the people who look for attention. it would be the same if I, as a gamer, wore this:http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/pac_man_hat_f.jpg in public just to get attention.

I can only speak to my own experiences, but most of my girlfriend's close friends (and as a result, my close friends) are gay/queer. Because of what she studies, she has a lot of queer friends.

I have never experienced what you're talking about. The only thing I ever hear similar to this is ironically when straight people get in my face talking about how they hate it when this mythical group of gay people get in their face.

I agree that people who seek attention are annoying, but in my substantial experiences with gay/queer people, I have never experienced what so many people in this thread have talked about.

 

[Johanthemonster666]

my thoughts exactly. this is why I can't stand the try hards and attention seekers. I get it. you're gay. I honestly could not care less. you do not need to be up in my face about it. these kinds of people just piss me off....

I really hate it when I see straight white people holding hands in public. Or when straight white boys on internet forums post hundreds of posts about the hottest females in a video game or real life. Ugh, I get it. I honestly could not care less. They don't need to be up in my face about it. These kinds of people just piss me off....

no no, you misunderstand good sir. I have no problem with gay couples holding hands, or kissing, or anything like that. what annoys me is the people (not only gay people) that have the general "AM I UPSETTING YOU? WELL YOU NEED TA DEEEEEL WITH IT!!!!!!" attitude. case in point, there's a guy at my school who fashoned a bow (think Ms. Pacman) out of police tape. yeah, he's TOTALLY NOT begging for attention... I have NO problem with homosexuals of any gender, race, etc. I just have a problem with the people who look for attention. it would be the same if I, as a gamer, wore this:http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/pac_man_hat_f.jpg in public just to get attention.

Well there are hundreds of people in any given public place or social environment that are looking for attention, why single people out who are just look different from what you consider acceptable? Who cares if there's a guy wearing a bow on his head, it's not hurting you. I'll tell you who I can't stand, people who feel like they have to commentate on what constitutes "acceptable" articles of clothing and ways of acting when the person(s) they're indicating are probably going about their business with no intention of bothering or even judging how masculine or straight you are.

 

[BanthaFodder]

no no, you misunderstand good sir. I have no problem with gay couples holding hands, or kissing, or anything like that. what annoys me is the people (not only gay people) that have the general "AM I UPSETTING YOU? WELL YOU NEED TA DEEEEEL WITH IT!!!!!!" attitude. case in point, there's a guy at my school who fashoned a bow (think Ms. Pacman) out of police tape. yeah, he's TOTALLY NOT begging for attention... I have NO problem with homosexuals of any gender, race, etc. I just have a problem with the people who look for attention. it would be the same if I, as a gamer, wore this:http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/pac_man_hat_f.jpg in public just to get attention.

I can only speak to my own experiences, but most of my girlfriend's close friends (and as a result, my close friends) are gay/queer. Because of what she studies, she has a lot of queer friends.

I have never experienced what you're talking about. The only thing I ever hear similar to this is ironically when straight people get in my face talking about how they hate it when this mythical group of gay people get in their face.

I agree that people who seek attention are annoying, but in my substantial experiences with gay/queer people, I have never experienced what so many people in this thread have talked about.

fair enough... it's sorta like hipsters... sorta... but yeah, I run into these types of people a LOT... although it is high school... so there is a lot of dipschit attention whoring going on from everybody...

 

[Johanthemonster666]

no no, you misunderstand good sir. I have no problem with gay couples holding hands, or kissing, or anything like that. what annoys me is the people (not only gay people) that have the general "AM I UPSETTING YOU? WELL YOU NEED TA DEEEEEL WITH IT!!!!!!" attitude. case in point, there's a guy at my school who fashoned a bow (think Ms. Pacman) out of police tape. yeah, he's TOTALLY NOT begging for attention... I have NO problem with homosexuals of any gender, race, etc. I just have a problem with the people who look for attention. it would be the same if I, as a gamer, wore this:http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/pac_man_hat_f.jpg in public just to get attention.

I can only speak to my own experiences, but most of my girlfriend's close friends (and as a result, my close friends) are gay/queer. Because of what she studies, she has a lot of queer friends.

I have never experienced what you're talking about. The only thing I ever hear similar to this is ironically when straight people get in my face talking about how they hate it when this mythical group of gay people get in their face.

I agree that people who seek attention are annoying, but in my substantial experiences with gay/queer people, I have never experienced what so many people in this thread have talked about.

My thoughts exactly. I have yet to meet any of these mythical creatures, and I'm gay myself. Why do I never see straight men being mercilessly dazzled by flamboyant, effeminate men in public places? Because it probably never happens.

I've taken showers with other guys my entire life, I assure the straight men here that despite how you might treat women, I don't feel the urge to sexually harass men whom I had no interest in to begin with (particularly straight men). In fact, sex is something I share exclusively with my boyfriend, so you might as well shove me in a shower room full of 80 year old grannies (Ick DX haha)I'm not interested.

 

[Terminal Blue]

fair enough... it's sorta like hipsters... sorta... but yeah, I run into these types of people a LOT... although it is high school... so there is a lot of dipschit attention whoring going on from everybody...

The problem being?

There's a difference between histrionic attention seeking and self-expression. People can dress completely normally and be the most invasive, attention seeking little bitches. Likewise, people can dress in weird ways and expect, nay demand, to be treated normally. That's part of the point of doing so a lot of the times, especially in an LGBT context.

Be glad you go to a school where people aspire to stand out. In my school, standing out meant being beaten until you bled.

 

[BanthaFodder]

my thoughts exactly. this is why I can't stand the try hards and attention seekers. I get it. you're gay. I honestly could not care less. you do not need to be up in my face about it. these kinds of people just piss me off....

I really hate it when I see straight white people holding hands in public. Or when straight white boys on internet forums post hundreds of posts about the hottest females in a video game or real life. Ugh, I get it. I honestly could not care less. They don't need to be up in my face about it. These kinds of people just piss me off....

no no, you misunderstand good sir. I have no problem with gay couples holding hands, or kissing, or anything like that. what annoys me is the people (not only gay people) that have the general "AM I UPSETTING YOU? WELL YOU NEED TA DEEEEEL WITH IT!!!!!!" attitude. case in point, there's a guy at my school who fashoned a bow (think Ms. Pacman) out of police tape. yeah, he's TOTALLY NOT begging for attention... I have NO problem with homosexuals of any gender, race, etc. I just have a problem with the people who look for attention. it would be the same if I, as a gamer, wore this:http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/pac_man_hat_f.jpg in public just to get attention.

Well there are hundreds of people in any given public place or social environment that are looking for attention, why single people out who are just look different from what you consider acceptable? Who cares if there's a guy wearing a bow on his head, it's not hurting you. I'll tell you who I can't stand, people who feel like they have to commentate on what constitutes "acceptable" articles of clothing and ways of acting when the person(s) they're indicating are probably going about their business with no intention of bothering or even judging how masculine or straight you are.

true, but some of it is.... well... ridiculous... I don't discriminate when it comes to blatant attention seeking though. I doubt a guy dressing in a big duster coat made from scratch out of felt and wearing a child's cheshire cat backpack is looking to "express himself" just as I doubt the same for a girl who appears to fashion her underwear from dental floss. yeah, it's not really hurting anyone, but it's just a nitpicky little thing that kinda grinds my gears

 

[Dragonclaw]

The news never shows the parade participants who are the normal people who just want to be treated like everyone else, they take the biggest freaks they can find and use those as the poster children.

Your problem is with the news organizations then and not the pride parade participants.

And I'm sorry if it offends you but leather boys in assless chaps, the bearded guy who always dresses as Wonder Woman, and the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgance are just not images that are helpful for people who want AND DESERVE to be treated equally. Be as kinky as you want, with whoever you want, same as I do, but that part of all our lives does belong behind closed doors, either in a home, or in a club MADE for whatever your kink may be

This again boils down to "I'm okay with black people as long as they do exactly as I say".

I believe that sex should be viewed as a positive construct. Hiding it behind closed doors has caused us far more problems than being to talk about it openly.

Sex positivity is a good thing, not a bad thing.

I don't think it's like that at ALL. I think it would be just as inappropriate if I ran around with the contents of our sex toys drawer and was waving them around.

I don't think it is at all a bad thing to say that while most normal, rational people believe there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, and believe the rights and privelages should be equal across the board. But there is that segment that tries to shock and claims to speak for the whole knowing full well that they will be the poster children for people who don't want to see that equality happen. Telling those people "you're NOT helping, and in fact you ARE hurting your own cause" is not oppression, it's sensible. There is nothing wrong with saying "some things aren't as appropriate in public", especially when so many have worked so hard to get things to where they should be. My buddy and co-worker is very active in the leather community, but other than his wrist strap and talking frankly about his "daddy" most people would never know. He's pretty active in local clubs and takes time off to go to a camp every year...nothing wrong with that at all. And he's pretty like minded, he was actually the first person I heard say 'it isn't helping' when talking about the people who try to stand out. It has nothing to do with "I like gay people as long as they act like me"...it's much more a case of "I like pretty much anybody until they start making a spectacle of themself". A view I find that isn't that uncommon. Like I said earlier, holding hands, hugging, kissing, talking about your significant other and about your relationship openly...NONE of that offends me no matter what the genders of the participants, usually I feel pretty happy for anyone who has found a person to share that level of closeness with. Isn't THAT really what the overall goal should be?

As for the media "If it bleeds, it leads". Good news and positive imagery doesn't get viewers unfortunately. But people need to understand that upfront and instead of going in hoping to be the biggest freak on TV and rising to more infamy with the idiots at the 700 club, the protection of marriage act whackos and any other crazy far right nutjob with a microphone and an audience. I don't see it as so wrong if just maybe the best thing that could happen is if the news could only report that there was a LGBT Pride parade in a major city and that it was pretty uneventful and a good time was had by all.