Was it prudent of Jennifer Lawrence to take pictures of herself nude in the first place? Y/N?

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Verlander

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Rocket Girl said:
Congratulations, you seized on a word that's only tangentially important to the discussion, and looked it up in a dictionary. Don't apply for your qualification in research just yet, you didn't bother to use multiple sources:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/prude

The US English definition isn't much different. People here are attaching more value to the sexual content than they would if it were violent content. People had a field day when the video of Beyonces sister attacking Jay Z came out. People watch in their thousands as someone is beheaded or shot dead in the street - arguably the most personal moment someone can have, and definitely broadcast without their permission - but suddenly everyone's saying that we shouldn't look at nudie pics, or that it's a huge violation. Double fucking standards. These celebs are victims, sure, but it's not going to change their lives. It's not altering anything.

If you still feel the need to place a greater value on images of a naked body over the far more intrusive violations that are leaked to the public every single day, then further conversation is pointless.
 

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Spot1990 said:
On a related note why does this never or rarely happen to guys? Do they just not take nude selfies? Or does the internet just not care. Because I would imagine that even guys would like to find out what a celebrity is working with because we're petty like that and everytime we find out we're bigger than someone we do a little dance inside.
Well I do know that some dudes send unsolicited pictures of their penises to women that they are interested in. Which generally doesn't impress the women being sent the pictures because they didn't ask for them. I don't know if any of those women have chosen to re-post/resend those unsolicited pictures over the internet. In my experience we just complain to our friends about how weird/gross it is.

Like what happened between a friend and I two days ago..Though the funniest thing was that the guy has a crush on another female friend of ours. So we wonder if he's trying to get sex on the side untill he has the courage to ask that one girl out. Either way it didn't work.

With celebrity men I don't know...I do wish that there were more playboy-ish spreads for male celebrities though. I mean fair is fair.
 

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Rocket Girl said:
I didn't notice any kind of link to your own nude images.
I'm pretty sure that's against forum rules. It's definitely not permissable on my work computer, but hey, after we've finished arguing we can trade like pokemon cards. Or something.

Moreover, if it is prudish to not wish your nude, sexualized body be seen by strangers, where can one find images of yours? Or are you prudish? Turnabout and all.
If being prude is something that causes you to "lose all respect" for someone, should you not make sure to not be prude? Or is your argument not based on truth.
I'm not hiding mine, but it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand
 
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Obviously she can take whatever pictures she want and she should be ok to put them where ever she or anyone else wants but unfortunately you shouldn't be putting stuff like that on the internet in any form. While it is an invasion of privacy for these people I hope this event serves as a kind of Titanic and people learn that you just have to be more careful about what you put on the internet. It isn't exactly fair but it seems to be the only way to avoid this.
 

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Rocket Girl said:
False. The victims had their personal, private items stored on a private, password protected server that was hacked. It's nothing like "throwing it in a random street." That's either a blatant lie, or a grave misunderstanding of the situation.
What it is though is putting sensitive documents in the care of a company whose security you can't audit, whose compensation for leaks is either woefully inadequate or completely waived, who offer no client side encryption and who have been known to cock up security in the past. The truism of using the cloud is that you need to make sure of your own security yourself, because whatever they offer you as compensation will be utterly inadequate.
 

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Rocket Girl said:
Verlander said:
Rocket Girl said:
I didn't notice any kind of link to your own nude images.
I'm pretty sure that's against forum rules. It's definitely not permissable on my work computer, but hey, after we've finished arguing we can trade like pokemon cards. Or something.

Moreover, if it is prudish to not wish your nude, sexualized body be seen by strangers, where can one find images of yours? Or are you prudish? Turnabout and all.
If being prude is something that causes you to "lose all respect" for someone, should you not make sure to not be prude? Or is your argument not based on truth.
I'm not hiding mine, but it's irrelevant to the discussion at hand
I will hold you to it. I will also assume I may share them with anyone I feel fit, including your family members, and make it publicly available?

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Rocket Girl said:
Try not to use fallacious arguments.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation
Haha, your argument seems to hinge on the idea that I'm in someway a hypocrite. I'm not. The photos are in the public sphere already, as I mentioned in my first post on this page. The difference is that I'm an unimportant person who no one recognises.
 

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So someone gets something stolen from them, and it's their fault? I guess people who get their houses robbed shouldn't have bought the house or put nice stuff inside for criminals to steal, its their fault? I guess people who get mugged on the street shouldn't have been on the street at that moment in time, it's their fault? I guess people who get beheaded by ISIS shouldn't have been captured by them, it's their fault? Jesus this forum sometimes
 

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There are so many pictures of naked women on the internet. Pictures of naked women on the internet taken with their consent, and shared with their consent. Some for free, others at a price, but all consensual. So whats the fucking point in hacking into someone elses account? What does violating someones privacy add to the viewing of nudes?
 

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Rocket Girl said:
I assume then that you do not use a bank or own any credit cards. Banks have been robbed, credit cards have been stolen and scanned from a distance.
I inspect each ATM for skimmers before use, actively use ATMs within businesses where possible, pay by cash if possible, audit my bank statements, use anti-fraud measures properly and know what kind of figures my bank ensures my transactions for. There is a compromise there but it's minor.

Rocket Girl said:
In fact, why are you on the internet? The internet is used to steal people's identities all the time. Do you know the security measures each site you visit employs? Maybe it's too much of a risk to even try browsing. You mustn't be a hypocrite.
Of course I know their security, in fact I actively audit it and restrict insecure cross site linking and scripts. I also look at a site and decide what data I feel I can trust it with. For instance, this account dead-ends onto a temporary mail account that will have cycled out of existence by now and isn't connected to any of my other accounts. This is common for all of my forum accounts.

I'm not a hypocrite, I'm a professional. In fact the cloud is kind of one of my areas. I would never use a cloud based storage service without encrypting the data before it was uploaded unless I had a bulletproof, airtight liability declaration with substantial reparations. You know what? I was writing my dissertation and wanted to back it up so I spent an afternoon reading usage policies. None satisfied me so I didn't use them...and that was for a document that could potentially cost me a year of university, not potentially ruin my life.

Rocket Girl said:
Or we teach people that women have a right to their own body, we make it harder for hackers to steal, and we focus on the criminals and not on what you think a victim of a sex crime should have done and you get to continue using the internet.
And by 'we' I guess you mean people like me, not people like you. Because, no offense, but I don't see your input being particularly useful.

The fact is that this was a morally and legally wrong thing of those people to do BUT that you need to take basic protective measures when it comes to your life and property. For some reason it's only embarrassing stuff, and specifically embarrassing stuff involving women (because as per most things no one cares when it happens to men, as this did incidentally) where people are afraid to give this advice. The fact is that if you blindly trust a service you can't begin to understand based on an assumption it'll be fine, and trust it with life changing data, you are a moron. You don't deserve to have anythign bad happen but you are a moron and you could have done more to prevent it.
 

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Rocket Girl said:
Woah, you take your cards into public? But anyone could steal them from you. Why don't you have them locked away where no one could ever find them? Is it because you deem the risk small enough and the rewards of using the cards large enough to continue their use? Because that would be interesting.
They have a second factor of authentication needed for transactions which has never been committed to my storage, any other form of transaction is ensured such that it can be declared fraudulent. Any breach of security on the bank's behalf that leads to losses will be fully compensated. The risk is so low that it is statistically insignificant given the lack of potential losses. The worst that would happen is a few days of inconvenience on my behalf whilst a new card was issued.

Rocket Girl said:
Citation needed. Show me evidence that "no one cares" when something happens to men.
Two men were on the list of hacked accounts...but this is being made all about women. because let's face it, no one cares about them.