Was This Fair?

[drbarno]

I find it silly that people cannot trust others unless it has been placed on a piece of paper by someone else saying they could do that thing.

Most estimates say that over 50% of people lie on their resume. With numbers like that, employers want some insurance that they're offering the job to the truly qualified candidate.

And what's wrong with the employer asking the person to do what the job asks them to instead of thinking they can just because a certicate says they can.

 

[Another]

It would depend on the degree. If he was sent back to get a B.Comm, BA in Econ. or MBA - absolutely fair. At the executive level, you're dealing with a lot more theory and are more detached from the day-to-day stuff, so that knowledge he gets in university could open up some avenues of thought he hadn't ever considered or known about before. his experience = good. Knowledge + experience = better. ;-)

If, however, he went and got a degree in, say, Fine Arts, then I'd say it's a bad business decision, as it wouldn't add near the value. The company just wants to see some letters after his name, in which case he could have sent money to Diploma Mill Inc. and saved himself years of headaches.

This. At a management level they may need him to expand his repertoire of skills. Either that or if it's to get certified for something.

 

[IzisviAziria]

I find it silly that people cannot trust others unless it has been placed on a piece of paper by someone else saying they could do that thing.

Most estimates say that over 50% of people lie on their resume. With numbers like that, employers want some insurance that they're offering the job to the truly qualified candidate.

And what's wrong with the employer asking the person to do what the job asks them to instead of thinking they can just because a certicate says they can.

Nothing at all. But when over half of the workforce is lying about qualifications for a job, employers don't want to waste their time training somebody who doesn't have the necessary skills to perform the job. Therefore, they put qualifications like college degrees on there in an attempt to thin out the number of idiots applying for jobs they can't do.

 

[BabyRaptor]

Hell, McDonalds won't hire you if you don't have a diploma/GED unless you provide proof you're still in school.

A formal piece of paper seems to mean alot to our society. Think about it...High school diploma, college diploma, marriage license, birth certificates...

 

[smithy_2045]

It's perfectly fair.

 

[vxicepickxv]

It's perfectly fair.

It would be fair if THEY paid for the degree. When he entered the IT workforce, there wasn't a demand for people to get a degree that didn't exist. He got a job on the conditions that he would do it to the best of his ability. Obviously he did his job well enough if they didn't fire him after doing it for 25 years.

Company based networks didn't really exist for most businesses until the late 80's early 90's. Colleges didn't have a demand for IT schooling, so most of them didn't offer a degree. If you've been doing a job for 25 years, then YES, it was a complete waste of his time.

 

[smithy_2045]

It's perfectly fair.

It would be fair if THEY paid for the degree. When he entered the IT workforce, there wasn't a demand for people to get a degree that didn't exist. He got a job on the conditions that he would do it to the best of his ability. Obviously he did his job well enough if they didn't fire him after doing it for 25 years.

Company based networks didn't really exist for most businesses until the late 80's early 90's. Colleges didn't have a demand for IT schooling, so most of them didn't offer a degree. If you've been doing a job for 25 years, then YES, it was a complete waste of his time.

The pay rise will cover the costs fairly quickly, and if it doesn't, he's an idiot for doing the course in the first place.

 

[vxicepickxv]

It's perfectly fair.

It would be fair if THEY paid for the degree. When he entered the IT workforce, there wasn't a demand for people to get a degree that didn't exist. He got a job on the conditions that he would do it to the best of his ability. Obviously he did his job well enough if they didn't fire him after doing it for 25 years.

Company based networks didn't really exist for most businesses until the late 80's early 90's. Colleges didn't have a demand for IT schooling, so most of them didn't offer a degree. If you've been doing a job for 25 years, then YES, it was a complete waste of his time.

The pay rise will cover the costs fairly quickly, and if it doesn't, he's an idiot for doing the course in the first place.

He's an idiot for doing something that means he won't get fired? I'm kind of missing your logic on that one. I guess compared to zero keeping your job is a pay raise.

 

[smithy_2045]

It's perfectly fair.

It would be fair if THEY paid for the degree. When he entered the IT workforce, there wasn't a demand for people to get a degree that didn't exist. He got a job on the conditions that he would do it to the best of his ability. Obviously he did his job well enough if they didn't fire him after doing it for 25 years.

Company based networks didn't really exist for most businesses until the late 80's early 90's. Colleges didn't have a demand for IT schooling, so most of them didn't offer a degree. If you've been doing a job for 25 years, then YES, it was a complete waste of his time.

The pay rise will cover the costs fairly quickly, and if it doesn't, he's an idiot for doing the course in the first place.

He's an idiot for doing something that means he won't get fired? I'm kind of missing your logic on that one. I guess compared to zero keeping your job is a pay raise.

his boss told him he was now required to finish University if he was going to climb higher.

Nothing about getting fired.