Watch_Dogs is quite simply AMAZING!!!

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It's not and never will be a fact that Watch Dogs has better NPC interaction than GTA V(which it dosen't) and that the graphics are objectively better(even when graphics are subjective). Yeah, keep trying. We get that you just like Watch Dogs, okay? Please stop shoving down our throats this crap about it being a fact that Watch Dogs is better than GTA V and saying we are all wrong for liking it more.
It's not and never will be a fact that GTA V has better NPC interaction than Watch Dogs (which it dosen't).

Graphics are objective:

Extra Credits video on that very subject [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oK8UTRgvJU]
 

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Brownie80 said:
It's not and never will be a fact that Watch Dogs has better NPC interaction than GTA V(which it dosen't) and that the graphics are objectively better(even when graphics are subjective). Yeah, keep trying. We get that you just like Watch Dogs, okay? Please stop shoving down our throats this crap about it being a fact that Watch Dogs is better than GTA V and saying we are all wrong for liking it more.
It's not and never will be a fact that GTA V has better NPC interaction than Watch Dogs (which it dosen't).

Graphics are objective:

Extra Credits video on that very subject [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oK8UTRgvJU]
Everything you said was wrong. Let me make two things clear:
1. Watch Dogs<GTA V in graphics and NPC interaction
2. Saying graphics is objective is like saying Swiss is objectively better than Cheddar. It is personal preference.
 

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Everything you said was wrong. Let me make two things clear:
1. Watch Dogs<GTA V in graphics and NPC interaction
2. Saying graphics is objective is like saying Swiss is objectively better than Cheddar. It is personal preference.
And then you realize half of them...
 

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Brownie80 said:
Everything you said was wrong. Let me make two things clear:
1. Watch Dogs<GTA V in graphics and NPC interaction
2. Saying graphics is objective is like saying Swiss is objectively better than Cheddar. It is personal preference.
And then you realize half of them...
WTF does that mean? You seem not to know that not everyone in the entire world living and dead is going to like the exact same games as you. I have played more open- world games I feel then you by your previous statements and in my opinion I hold Sleeping Dogs, Just Cause 2, The Elder Scrolls V, L.A. Noire, all GTA games and Saint's Row 2 in a higher regard than Watch Dogs. Now if you like on wasting time trying to desperately convince one random guy on the internet who you don't knew and will never meet in your life by saying that it's a FACT that Watch Dogs is better than most open-world games when you've played very few of them and it's quite obvious that you can't force someone to change their subjective tastes, then fine. You love Watch Dogs and think RDR and GTA V and games made by Rockstar Games in general are dog feces in comparison, then FINE. However the last thing I need is some stranger on the internet that my tastes in games are inherently wrong and I am objectively wrong in my gaming likes and gaming dislikes. Thank you.
 

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WTF does that mean? You seem not to know that not everyone in the entire world living and dead is going to like the exact same games as you. I have played more open- world games I feel then you by your previous statements and in my opinion I hold Sleeping Dogs, Just Cause 2, The Elder Scrolls V, L.A. Noire, all GTA games and Saint's Row 2 in a higher regard than Watch Dogs. Now if you like on wasting time trying to desperately convince one random guy on the internet who you don't knew and will never meet in your life by saying that it's a FACT that Watch Dogs is better than most open-world games when you've played very few of them and it's quite obvious that you can't force someone to change their subjective tastes, then fine. You love Watch Dogs and think RDR and GTA V and games made by Rockstar Games in general are dog feces in comparison, then FINE. However the last thing I need is some stranger on the internet that my tastes in games are inherently wrong and I am objectively wrong in my gaming likes and gaming dislikes. Thank you.
Use Google...


Graphics are objective. "Katamari Damacy is a game that has terrible graphics and fantastic aesthetics."
 

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Brownie80 said:
WTF does that mean? You seem not to know that not everyone in the entire world living and dead is going to like the exact same games as you. I have played more open- world games I feel then you by your previous statements and in my opinion I hold Sleeping Dogs, Just Cause 2, The Elder Scrolls V, L.A. Noire, all GTA games and Saint's Row 2 in a higher regard than Watch Dogs. Now if you like on wasting time trying to desperately convince one random guy on the internet who you don't knew and will never meet in your life by saying that it's a FACT that Watch Dogs is better than most open-world games when you've played very few of them and it's quite obvious that you can't force someone to change their subjective tastes, then fine. You love Watch Dogs and think RDR and GTA V and games made by Rockstar Games in general are dog feces in comparison, then FINE. However the last thing I need is some stranger on the internet that my tastes in games are inherently wrong and I am objectively wrong in my gaming likes and gaming dislikes. Thank you.
Use Google...


Graphics are objective. "Katamari Damacy is a game that has terrible graphics and fantastic aesthetics."
What does a random Katamari Damaci video prove that graphics are objective?
 

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Brownie80 said:
What does a random Katamari Damaci video prove that graphics are objective?
You didn't watch the video...
That's all you have to say? Really?!? I DID! Also, you don't seem to get it after replying FIFTEEN times: I. Don't. Like. Watch. Dogs. That. Much. Do you get it now? Can you stop wasting my time telling me I'm wrong when gaming is all about different subjective tastes! It's no more of a fact that Watch Dogs is better than GTA V then GTA V being better than Watch Dogs. It is an opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less. However what I seem to be saying keeps on going through one ear and out the other but just please can you understand that the only "fact" here is that we all hold opinions? PLEASE?
 

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That's all you have to say? Really?!? I DID! Also, you don't seem to get it after replying FIFTEEN times: I. Don't. Like. Watch. Dogs. That. Much. Do you get it now? Can you stop wasting my time telling me I'm wrong when gaming is all about different subjective tastes! It's no more of a fact that Watch Dogs is better than GTA V then GTA V being better than Watch Dogs. It is an opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less. However what I seem to be saying keeps on going through one ear and out the other but just please can you understand that the only "fact" here is that we all hold opinions? PLEASE?
You're the one that said GTAV had better graphics than Watch Dogs, not me.
 

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While I do like Watch Dogs the character Aiden is kinda boring to me. Honestly, I feelthat Niko Bellic and John Marston are better characters than Aiden Pearce is. Plus, I much prefer the driving in GTA IV over Watch Dogs. The driving in Watch Dogs just feels really off and weird.
 

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Brownie80 said:
That's all you have to say? Really?!? I DID! Also, you don't seem to get it after replying FIFTEEN times: I. Don't. Like. Watch. Dogs. That. Much. Do you get it now? Can you stop wasting my time telling me I'm wrong when gaming is all about different subjective tastes! It's no more of a fact that Watch Dogs is better than GTA V then GTA V being better than Watch Dogs. It is an opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less. However what I seem to be saying keeps on going through one ear and out the other but just please can you understand that the only "fact" here is that we all hold opinions? PLEASE?
You're the one that said GTAV had better graphics than Watch Dogs, not me.
Graphics don't matter that much as gameplay but they are always a plus. That's what I was obviously trying to say.
 

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Those would be 'Privacy Invasions', and they are deemed a collectible by the game, for experience and some cash.
EternallyBored said:
Yeah those are just scenes unlocked through one of the side missions, you basically just do a really simple mini game where you hack a box then it shows you a camera view inside the apartment, usually of some personal or embarrassing scene, some of them are funny, or heartwarming, others are kind of dark, like the one where you sit there and watch a son calling his father and leaving a message to tell him he's coming over to visit after work while the father lies dead on the floor as you watch through the camera of a tablet computer.
Ah - I see. Thanks, guys. Was just curious as to what those were.
 

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WATCH_DOGS, to me, is quite simply the biggest disappointment I ever seen. Not just due to what they promised us originally but even just as a open world game. It's missing things like being able to blind fire or fire from cover without having to aim in case an enemy flanks you. And the hacking is pretty lame, barley a step up from the hacking in Deus Ex Revolution, adding only a handful of new ideas. The controls feel just awful, especially while driving, with the controller layouts feeling a bit weird at times. And if you want to make the comparison to GTA V then your going to be kidding yourself by saying this game has better graphics or is more detailed, it can hardly even compare to GTA 4.

As much as I have played so far, being about 15%, I feel like I've been only having fun maybe 20% of all that time I played. I can see playing thru once but after that it's in the dust. They better come back with what we we're promised in 2, which with Ubisoft's record we can expect in about 1 year.
Are you talking about the PS4 version of Watch Dogs or the PS3/360 version? Because graphically, Watch Dogs on PS4 looks way better than GTAV, the NPCs look better than GTAV's main characters.

Why the hell do you want blindfire? It's useless 99.9% of the time due to all the accuracy penalties (besides for that bullshit auto-aim blindfire in Uncharted). Even if an enemy is super close, you still ADS fire for better aim as you still need to center the camera on the enemy regardless if you're using blindfire or not so I never got the point of using blindfire in TPSs. In the following video, you see how I always ADS fire even when the enemy is really close to me like at 3:50 and 6:30 (even with a sniper rifle):
PS3/360, it looks worse than some games from '08. And the reason I want blind fire is because it feels outright lazy not to have it in the first place, like they couldn't be bothered because the game was too cool for it or something, but also when an enemy flanks me and is only 2 feet away I shouldn't have to wait to shoot the guy because I need to aim. That only happened about 2 or 3 times the whole play thru but it would have been nice to kill them instead of die or run away like a wuss. If only they could have mapped the run button somewhere else, but that would have required they actually cared to make a good game.
 

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PS3/360, it looks worse than some games from '08. And the reason I want blind fire is because it feels outright lazy not to have it in the first place, like they couldn't be bothered because the game was too cool for it or something, but also when an enemy flanks me and is only 2 feet away I shouldn't have to wait to shoot the guy because I need to aim. That only happened about 2 or 3 times the whole play thru but it would have been nice to kill them instead of die or run away like a wuss. If only they could have mapped the run button somewhere else, but that would have required they actually cared to make a good game.
I couldn't care less how Watch Dogs looks on PS3/360.

To blindfire, you still need to center the camera on the enemy to hit them. What's the difference between blindfiring and L1/L2 aiming and shooting? Because it's almost literally the same fucking thing (center the free look camera on enemy, then shoot) and you get accuracy penalties for blindfiring. If the game can use the shoot button for something else when not aiming with L1/L2, then use it for something else because that something else is more useful than blindfiring.
 

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What's the difference between blindfiring and L1/L2 aiming and shooting? Because it's almost literally the same fucking thing (center the free look camera on enemy, then shoot) and you get accuracy penalties for blindfiring. If the game can use the shoot button for something else when not aiming with L1/L2, then use it for something else because that something else is more useful than blindfiring.
It's about 5 seconds of bullets flying in your direction before you can fire back is what it is.

And, btw, they didn't have any use for that button while in cover since you can only run and shoot while aiming with it. You can negate the penalties when the person you are going to shoot in about 3 feet away and you can't be hit while doing this since you big head ain't popping over the cover to look at what you just hit.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
What's the difference between blindfiring and L1/L2 aiming and shooting? Because it's almost literally the same fucking thing (center the free look camera on enemy, then shoot) and you get accuracy penalties for blindfiring. If the game can use the shoot button for something else when not aiming with L1/L2, then use it for something else because that something else is more useful than blindfiring.
It's about 5 seconds of bullets flying in your direction before you can fire back is what it is.

And, btw, they didn't have any use for that button while in cover since you can only run and shoot while aiming with it. You can negate the penalties when the person you are going to shoot in about 3 feet away and you can't be hit while doing this since you big head ain't popping over the cover to look at what you just hit.
It only takes half a second to shoot and kill them, you can use focus as well or go for the takedown with the cover swap melee. I've never wanted to once blindfire in Watch Dogs.