It's more like a story we are all writing, rather than just something to do.VeneratedWulfen93 said:
We Are Our Avatars III (Ended!)
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Makoto was quiet for a while longer before looking at Grace. "Grace... I'm sorry, but I'm just not sure about this. And if you do need to... relieve tension... I don't really like it, but I can take it. If... if you really think this'll help... then maybe you can try it, but..."
OoC: @Ven There's nothing wrong with that. Stories need interesting characters. The world could be set to blow, but it's hard to care unless there are likeable, well-developed characters at stake.
OoC: @Ven There's nothing wrong with that. Stories need interesting characters. The world could be set to blow, but it's hard to care unless there are likeable, well-developed characters at stake.
OOC: @Outis Stories have arcs, cresendoes... and lets face it this story revolves around Four and such. To claim we are all writing it is a bit false. I want to be exited and enthralled by stories not bored out of my skull by watching Four and Grace discuss woman problems. The 'central' story just seems like Eastenders to me, nothing happening over a long period of time. Maybe thats because I've never been involved with the characters, maybe its because my definition of story differs from everyone elses. I can't lie and say I will be interested with Grace's problems and such because I don't understand why there is no urgency in saving the world. Everyone just sits around talking while the world burns.
@Gear Characters can be over-developed however. Too much thought and too many small problems prevent anyone from grasping what the hell is going on, even veterans like me. It puts a wall of unfamiliarity up between character and reader.
@Gear Characters can be over-developed however. Too much thought and too many small problems prevent anyone from grasping what the hell is going on, even veterans like me. It puts a wall of unfamiliarity up between character and reader.
Grace got closer to Makoto and placed her hand on her shoulders. "Makoto...I do not want to hurt you like I did before, but please...tell me if you are not comfortable with this. Say the word, and this idea will be disregarded." she said.
"I... I need some time to think." Makot pushed Grace away gently, then stood and left the room, heading to her own.
OoC: Off for a bit, dinner.
OoC: Off for a bit, dinner.
"Eh, why not? It's not like you could make it much worse." Rose answered Erica.
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Hmmm....
@Ven: Everything you described as liking, crazy people, random fights, unlikely allies, I see all of that happening in our next thread.
...Maybe we should go ahead and get the ball rolling on starting that thread up? It's not like we absolutely have to wait until this thread is over to start the next one, seeing as how 3 won't segue into the next one like 2 did into 3.
See, @Wacky agrees with my sentiment.
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Hmmm....
@Ven: Everything you described as liking, crazy people, random fights, unlikely allies, I see all of that happening in our next thread.
...Maybe we should go ahead and get the ball rolling on starting that thread up? It's not like we absolutely have to wait until this thread is over to start the next one, seeing as how 3 won't segue into the next one like 2 did into 3.
See, @Wacky agrees with my sentiment.
Winter falls asleep in her chair leaning back... which led her to fall backwards, still asleep.
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OoC: See ya guys later...
@All: Personally don't care how long the thread goes actually.
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OoC: See ya guys later...
@All: Personally don't care how long the thread goes actually.
OOC: I might have to sadly, I've been gradually losing interest but unable to simply stop because I remember the awesome times we had throughout all threads. They were never the moments of quiet exposition, nore any conversation or quiet revelation. Many of these could provide context anc such but never the meat of the matter.
"Very well." Grace said as Makoto left. "I hope this will not spoil our relationship..." she added after.
Also, I don't see why length is a problem it's not like we are actually writing a book and need to keep everything nice and concise.
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=6035303VeneratedWulfen93 said:
Also, I don't see why length is a problem it's not like we are actually writing a book and need to keep everything nice and concise.
That sort of like what I was arguing about with @Salt yesterday, in the sense that that is personal opinion. I, personally, find some of these quiet talking moments to be the most interesting. Like when Royce was telling his story to Graus. There was drama and tension and despair and a fair amount of horror in that scene, and it was a relatively quiet one.VeneratedWulfen93 said:
OOC: @Wacky just what is so appealing about my sediment? Why are my rocks superior to others?
@Ven: LOL
@All: Also, posted something in the Chat Group. Just want to bring that to attention.
"Alright. Maybe we should go somewhere where I don't have to lie down on the floor though?" Rose said to Erica. She went over to prop Winter back up, then decided she was better off on the floor and just put her chair back up.
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Could have gone worse.
Could have gone better...
@All: Also, posted something in the Chat Group. Just want to bring that to attention.
"Alright. Maybe we should go somewhere where I don't have to lie down on the floor though?" Rose said to Erica. She went over to prop Winter back up, then decided she was better off on the floor and just put her chair back up.
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Could have gone worse.
Could have gone better...
OOC: @Outis If I was ever privvy to any such moments I have never seen any, much less been a part of anything. I can't remember anything I've ever done quietly or any success I've ever had actually. Put simply I don't mind talking and such but theres just too much now, no sense of danger or adventure. I take the same stance on sex as well, there are too many relationships and such now and that bothers me. Thats more opinion than my other points however. To be honest if I read this current thread from beginning I'd give up from boredom a quarter the way through. I don't care about length so long as it is exciting throughout. Everytime I do something action-like the group is now so OP combined that there isn't much I can do within reason. Just everyone rolls there eyes and goes "This again? I wanna talk not fight lets finish this quickly" and then hand-waves off the aggressors.
Well we ARE the protagonists, so of course we succeed in the end. Really it all comes down to what you want out of a story. I don't really want a story that is that action oriented I think, because it would seem so much more hollow. And really, you can't look at this thread like a book, because it is not, and so you cannot read it like a book.VeneratedWulfen93 said:
OOC: @Outis The protagonists shouldn't feel invincible. They shouldn't feel like no matter what they will win. I agree a story needs more than just action without reaon it also needs balance. Currently we have too much talking not enough action. I never liked the idea of the protagonists always winning or at least seeming like they would. Whatever bad they go through is instantly made reduntant because they are invicible. Villains feel pressured and vulnerable, not opposed. I have never been apart of anything talking orientated and such because I can't get into it. I read books like that and watch films like that but this I expected something differant. Also i never felt like a protagonist or even part of the thread for awhile, my characters were always over-looked by the majority or excluded by a wall of back-story. You have a differant perspective immedietely. Grace and Gerry are both established characters, known and appraochable by the majority of the group.