"I see. Well, you seem to use them fairly well, Makoto." Riou replied. He turns to Sara. "Well, Kobold and Nay-Kobold are generally the same size of a normal human, so not quite, but the idea sounds about the same."
He looks to Raiden. "You control a man as a zombie? That isn't something one should be proud of, in my opinion."
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"If you call that fun, enjoy it. I'd rather not drink that poison." Athena replies to Erica.