We should LOL @ this "no government" and "living free" guy's argument

[Beliyal]

So. Much. Poe's. Law.

Darn it Internet! I used to be able to tell whether somebody was being serious or satirical. Now I never know which to assume. D:

Basically this. Is that guy really serious? I can't believe anyone would be so poorly educated, especially someone who claims to have worked in education. Seriously? Let's hope that what he wrote was a joke.

But if he is serious, all I can say is that he has absolutely no idea what it means to live without the benefits of the civilization. As someone who studies archaeology and deeply admires the ancient cultures, I assure everyone that no one should willingly desire to go back and live like that. Even past civilizations are something that would kill most people before the age of 5, let alone the times before we had any cities, laws and governments. And even in the most primitive cultures, there was still education. You didn't learn algebra, but you had to learn how to hunt wild animals and I'm sure this guy has no idea what it means to catch something running very fast only with arrows and spears with stone arrowheads and spearheads. Besides, if he wants to give up civilization, he should give up the internet first. For his sake and for everyone's sake.

 

[Sir Pootis]

No government and living free is awesome until you have a large group of starving children and single mothers wondering where food comes from.

Your name and avatar are perfect for this.

OT: This is, quite frankly, disturbing. The point of the education system is to provide necessary skills to get a job.

Young adults are supposed express themselves sexually and they're supposed to have children.

Teenagers are not financially independent. That's why they go to school, to gain it. They physically can't support their children, and aren't in an appropriate mental state to look after a newborn child. Claiming that teen pregnancy is a positive thing and should be encouraged is quite a sick thing to say in my opinion.

 

[freaper]

Oh good gripes some people actually believe we could go back to that?

Fucking idiots -.-

For over 5000 years we've been trying to get away from it, it's almost ironic that the uneducated mental state we've been trying to escape is pining for exactly that ignorance.

 

[Giftfromme]

No need to be so serious all the time.

No need to be so grating and silly all the time. Calling me out on being serious when you're laughing at people for being stupid, when you display stunning ignorance in this post. Clever.

There is no real "set thinking" as you put it.

Actually there is. Look up cognitive biases, specifically confirmation bias and logical fallacies. People become set in their views. In fact, it's been shown that simply being exposed to a position alters their perception. Shame you don't know that. Fortunately, I'll take the high road and not "lol" at your argument.

Just on this very site there was reporting on a study on the effects on decision making and critical thinking caused by trolling. And you think that people don't get set in their thinking. Cute.

None of us here have a consensus in our thinking,

I didn't say you did.

just most agree how silly the argument is.

I didn't say it wasn't.

Yes he's allowed to hold that opinion, but nothing protects those opinions being mocked if they're silly enough.

I said nothing about this, keep to what I posted. It's never a good sign when someone decides to go in with the free speech thing.

I'm going to be that guy. Strawman. Reply to what I said, or not at all, and concede that you have no defense.

Dunno what RWJ is, so can't respond to that.

Ray William Johnson. A talentless hack who reposts, reposts of other people's content for people to laugh at. Like a shitter version of Funniest Home Videos on Youtube, except that YouTube itself already fills that function.

Just have fun bro!

I am. Calling out ignorant sycophantic attention seeking behaviour gives me a thrill. It's like a more intellectual version of what you're doing, but minus the attention seeking part.

You're very serious in a thread that's meant to be silly. I don't know why bro. Just give it up lol.

I don't really see the point in such serious replies. I mean, that's for other threads and I have given serious replies. Don't try to dispute this before actually reading my previous posts in other serious threads. You may not agree with my opinions but they're still serious replies nonetheless.

I mean, if you're going to say we're all set in our thinking, using only these posts as evidence, then you're set in your thinking, given your responses in this thread. Just as bad bro, but you're trying to preach. Much worse brother! Just live it up!

 

[Vegosiux]

Yeah well I prefer my freedom flavor to be "having my options not limited to eating, killing and fucking if I don't happen to be sleeping". Freedom isn't synonymous with "absence of any and all restrictions".

 

[Epic Bear Man]

Honestly if he feels that way, I'm fine by it. But if he insists we go back to a natural world, I suggest he logs off of Facebook, moves into the woods/desert/any biosphere away from cities and towns. I'd like to see how long he'll survive in the natural world before he comes crawling back to the warm embraces of electricity and the modern world.

 

[AlbertoDeSanta]

It's things like these that make me wish I had a reaction image folder. And then a Sub-folder called 'wut'. Because this, is truly the stupidest thing I've seen this year. Without the Government (others have said so before), we'd be a far more barbaric race with no structure and absolutely no order. Problems would hardly ever be solved and we would stagnate. You're told you aren't good enough because you aren't and because you have to potential to be better. Being better isn't a bad thing, and sometimes, you need to be insulted to realise that stagnation is something you don't want. These teenagers are absolutely idiotic, and I hope they enjoy their collective idiocy, because this is absolutely abhorrent.

 

[Strazdas]

Biologically, pregnancies in what we consider teens are acceptable. before we had what we call modern society, this was the norm.
HOWEVER, our life and enviroment changed. we live much longer (average age was ~20-30 2000 years ago), so there is no need to "make offsprings as fast as possible". we also got more societal concerns, such as school, higher education, finding a job. our life has adopted to the longer life cycle, we can now afford to have no kids till 30 and still live long enough to see our kids move out. What this leaves us, is that technically teen pregnancies are not wrong, however practically it is very undesirable in our current society.

Actually, the man has a point. As modern as we are with all of our gadgets they still don't farm, fish or hunt for us.

We still depend on farmers and fishermen to feed us. So saying we 'could' go back to that if not for goverment and laws etc, isn't exactly wrong.

Sure, the modern way of life is easier, but that way of life is indeed more free.

I'm not going to comment on good/bad, just stating facts.

I heavily disagree with it being good for teenagers to be pregnant in our society though.

Actually it is people like his fault. We have machines that can grow plants and pick them almost astronomically. in fact we pick most of the crows by machines, we call them tractors. we process them by machines, we cook them by machines. Fisherding is also being automatizated. We dont hunt, we herd animals, where one person is enough to take care of a 1000 of cows becuase of machinery. in fact if it wasnt for the social taboos of "omg we must go natural the science is the devil" we would be eating food that is mostly artificially grown and identical to real by now. we are sloly movign towards this, but there is massive panic waves in consumer market still form time to time. In fact there are projects in proposition now where food manufacturing is completely autonomous, but noone wants to invest into a product that will cause social uproar becuase think of all the farmers that wont be able to sell their crops.

 

[Madman123456]

Bleh. Well, let's see what they think about the issue in twenty years.
People need more education. With more education, less people would ask irrelevant Questions if any at all. Julian Assange was asked about his new Haircut more often then anything else because that's so important.
Less People asking about Haircuts, more People asking about the Policy of wikileaks or maybe his own and if there's a difference.

When Countries send Soldiers into other countries, People of both countries should at least know how to find the other country via google. I don't think everyone has to know where to find the "central african republic" although the name may give you a hint; but everyone should know where their own country is.

Everyone should at least have an Idea of the History of their Country. There are People over here who don't know who the last Chanselor was (that's what we call the poor schmuck who babysits our parliament).

Everyone should know why there letters in math. Some of them look weird and everyone should at least know that they aren't magic.

 

[Vuliev]

Sure, the modern way of life is easier, but that way of life is indeed more free.

But it's not more free. Subsistence is just that--you have no other priorities other than survival. When you have no advanced technology to make things easier, you're going to be entirely focused on making sure you aren't starving or freezing to death. In a sense, you'd be a sl]ave to your own biological needs, with no time for intellectual pursuits because any time you spend on them is time spent not surviving.

Fuck it ill be the one "freshman arts liberal" or whatever it is im supposed to be to disagree, i think hes got a point, id love to go live in a cabin in the woods for a while hunting deer, fishing and growing my own weed, and be in harmony with nature instead of living in a concrete city that i dont really like earning money for my boss surrounded by unhappy looking people who dont talk to each other (tho that might just be the uk) whilst we all send our planet straight to hell. I dont think all of society should collapse and everyone should revert to this, but its not to be scoffed at either. Modern life seems very artificial and contrived sometimes. I would never completely reject living in a city with all the modern conveniences but id like to get back to nature sometime, at least for a bit.

And that's the beauty of technology--you can do that, right now. Go start a mini-garden! Find a way to raise a chicken or two! Go drive to a spot in the countryside, and hike somewhere! With all those things, you still have a place in adding to societal progress. You wouldn't be doing anything near what the guy on Facebook is suggesting, i.e. complete "natural" anarchy, with no social structure, order, or technology, and a reversal of the progress we made since we invented agriculture over 6000 years ago.

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Man, and here I was glad to be back on the Escapist after a recent stint on reddit.

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Nice to see a genuine bro here, one that actually seems to understand the Zen of bro. *brofist*

 

[Lieju]

Ironically, back in the days where we didn't have organized government, education, police, etc. woman got stoned/beaten to death for getting pregnant that young. Ignorance at it's finest, ladies and gentlemen.

Only if they weren't married.

 

[Psykoma]

Just goes to show you how badly the US public school system is fucked, the fact that it is producing people such as this.

Not just producing them, hiring them too.

We still depend on farmers and fishermen to feed us. So saying we 'could' go back to that if not for goverment and laws etc, isn't exactly wrong.

Yeah we could.
If we felt like killing off almost everyone.

There is no way in hell that current populations, at least in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, could be supported in any way shape or form if everyone hunted for themselves.

 

[dfphetteplace]

Humans are not fully grown until they are in their 20s. This guys argument is not only insane, but biologically wrong.