Weirdly racist job interview (updated)
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If he's not being racist against you, then who cares? Lots of people with money aren't PC public relations professionals. Do they still pay?
If the boss is ranting racist but still a good boss, the work is good, and it pays well, I call that a good job.
You're going to be panhandling with a guitar if you wait for everything to be perfect eco-green politically sensitive cash.
If the boss is ranting racist but still a good boss, the work is good, and it pays well, I call that a good job.
You're going to be panhandling with a guitar if you wait for everything to be perfect eco-green politically sensitive cash.
Being fair and not knowing the interviewer, maybe the person was feeling you out as far as your racial and/or social views lie and not reacting strongly to his possibly poor choice (or deliberate choice) of language may have been part of the interview. I've done things like that while interviewing, though not necessarily about race, I have put potential employees in odd or difficult or uncomfortable spots to see how they react and hire them according to their reaction.
I could be absolutely wrong too, since I don't know anything beyond what has been said here.
Social experiments by way of job interviews are fun too... especially when you don't intend on actually hiring anyone and just want to see how people react to situations. In this world, you never know if you're the butt of someone else's entertainment. BEWARE.
I could be absolutely wrong too, since I don't know anything beyond what has been said here.
Social experiments by way of job interviews are fun too... especially when you don't intend on actually hiring anyone and just want to see how people react to situations. In this world, you never know if you're the butt of someone else's entertainment. BEWARE.
Huh...well it could have been some weird test, or perhaps the guy just has a bizarre sense of humor. Either way if you do get the job I would watch him, and maybe when you feel comfortable with other coworkers perhaps bring it up with one of them and ask if he's done stuff like that before.
Could you give some examples? I'm very curious as to what he was asking.Dirty Hipsters said:
As for the rest of it, nope, bizarre, have never even heard of anything like that.
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He said something along the lines of how I spoke every good English considering I was an immigrant and how he needed someone who could read and write well because there was a lot of legal writing involved. Then he said "I've worked with Hispanics before and they never really have the language skills I need, but then again what can you expect from Mexicans? It's not like they're here because they want to learn English."Ihateregistering1 said:
He never said anything that was outright hostile, it was always really on the borderline of being offensive but not exactly discriminatory. Again, like I said in my OP, it was less the racial remarks and more the fact that he was being really unprofessional that bothered me.
Well that's one hell of an alarm bell....
If you're desperate, I'd say take the job if you're offered it but be prepared to have one weird boss. I'd be applying for new jobs from the day you start. If you're not desperate for a job, then maybe go to the second interview because you have not go much to lose, but don't be off the mind that you'll accept the job if you're offered it unless something radical changes.
My weirdest interview experience has been when I once got a telephone call about a recruitment job I had apparently applied for. I was unsure what job they were referring to so I decided to buy some time and asked if they could re-arrange the interview for tomorrow morning. I cancelled going out to the pub that night, racked my brains as to what job it could be, drew a blank, and in the end decided did some very general interview prep and decided to try and wing it.
She called me back in the morning. The first question was relatively straightforward- why did I want a job in recruitment? I answered it all nice and politely, but then she asked about my work experience. She told me that my student job as a tour guide was not a "proper job" and demanded to know why I had not found a "professional job" as a student. She didn't think the one summer I spent working in a restaurant as sufficient either and strongly implied that I lacked motivation.
I dropped my friendly veneer at that point and told her that I had no idea what job I was being interviewed for as I had not made any applications in recruitment. I then demanded to know where she'd got my CV from. She told me it was just on her screen taken from their database, so I told her very sternly that there's been a misunderstanding and asked her to remove my CV from the database as I didn't appreciate getting unsolicited phone calls and being interviewed in such a rude manner. That shut her up.
In hindsight, what probably happened was that I uploaded my cv onto some job site and ticked a box that said I'm interested in recruitment. The moral of the story I think is don't say anywhere that you're interested in recruitment, or sales for that matter, I think both are just dodgy areas to work in.
If you're desperate, I'd say take the job if you're offered it but be prepared to have one weird boss. I'd be applying for new jobs from the day you start. If you're not desperate for a job, then maybe go to the second interview because you have not go much to lose, but don't be off the mind that you'll accept the job if you're offered it unless something radical changes.
My weirdest interview experience has been when I once got a telephone call about a recruitment job I had apparently applied for. I was unsure what job they were referring to so I decided to buy some time and asked if they could re-arrange the interview for tomorrow morning. I cancelled going out to the pub that night, racked my brains as to what job it could be, drew a blank, and in the end decided did some very general interview prep and decided to try and wing it.
She called me back in the morning. The first question was relatively straightforward- why did I want a job in recruitment? I answered it all nice and politely, but then she asked about my work experience. She told me that my student job as a tour guide was not a "proper job" and demanded to know why I had not found a "professional job" as a student. She didn't think the one summer I spent working in a restaurant as sufficient either and strongly implied that I lacked motivation.
I dropped my friendly veneer at that point and told her that I had no idea what job I was being interviewed for as I had not made any applications in recruitment. I then demanded to know where she'd got my CV from. She told me it was just on her screen taken from their database, so I told her very sternly that there's been a misunderstanding and asked her to remove my CV from the database as I didn't appreciate getting unsolicited phone calls and being interviewed in such a rude manner. That shut her up.
In hindsight, what probably happened was that I uploaded my cv onto some job site and ticked a box that said I'm interested in recruitment. The moral of the story I think is don't say anywhere that you're interested in recruitment, or sales for that matter, I think both are just dodgy areas to work in.
I had a summer job at a small restaurant once. First impression wasn't good and it didn't improve. It was a family business. the owner/chef was kind of an ass who would yell at the staff for no reason. He had no prior experience in restaurants but he'd been a meat trader or something like that. His wife was completely neurotic and couldn't handle stress which is a great quality when you run a restaurant. She actually fainted three times over the summer I worked there. They also had an 8 year old son who would 'help out' (i.e. throw knives into the sink where I was doing the dishes from across the kitchen) and drive his pedal car through the restaurant. He also got his dad to pay for a PS3 (dad didn't know this also requires a tv, they had to get that later) which he set up in the basement under the restaurant, play hardcore music on it that was audible in the restaurant itself and then run off to play somewhere else, leaving the music on.
They were actually featured on our national version of one of those hell's kitchen shows but the guy running it (after determining the chef didn't know jack-all about meat, even though he claims to have lots of experience with it) and noticing that they were a year behind on the rent decided 'screw it, this place is beyond saving.'
Luckily, I had quit by that point.
They were actually featured on our national version of one of those hell's kitchen shows but the guy running it (after determining the chef didn't know jack-all about meat, even though he claims to have lots of experience with it) and noticing that they were a year behind on the rent decided 'screw it, this place is beyond saving.'
Luckily, I had quit by that point.
If you're desperate I'd say do another interview and try to get the job. If the work environment isn't any better than the phone interview you can always work there while continuing the job search. Not only will you get $$$ but you'll also get to put down that you have experience! That always looks good.
I've never really had a weird interview. Closest I've gotten is an interview for a stockroom job at WalMart back when I was in high school. It was going good; we talked about my previous teamwork experiences, what I enjoyed, what I didn't about said experiences. Then we got to the part about my personality, etc. and I was asked stuff like "If you could be any animal, which animal would you be?". I answered a snake because they're quick and flexible. Turns out the company had given that and similar questions with subjective answers "right" answers and I'd failed. Still, that part of the interview really confused the heck outta me.
I've never really had a weird interview. Closest I've gotten is an interview for a stockroom job at WalMart back when I was in high school. It was going good; we talked about my previous teamwork experiences, what I enjoyed, what I didn't about said experiences. Then we got to the part about my personality, etc. and I was asked stuff like "If you could be any animal, which animal would you be?". I answered a snake because they're quick and flexible. Turns out the company had given that and similar questions with subjective answers "right" answers and I'd failed. Still, that part of the interview really confused the heck outta me.
Why are we all missing out on the obvious? It IS illegal to ask those questions. You CANNOT be asked: Your age, your gender, sexual orientation, race, or religion. There are federal laws prohibiting job discrimination; screw that whole "well you're not any of those things so you shouldn't care" bullcrap, he is not allow to even ask if you are Polish or not.
When I was younger it was my father's job to enforce these laws; I actually got asked if I was Jewish on a job interview once, he went on to give me the job and he was pretty cool so I never brought up anything legal with him. But holy crap, if you're an interviewer you have to know these things, I got taught this stuff in school of what an interviewer can ask you or not, they should know too.
When I was younger it was my father's job to enforce these laws; I actually got asked if I was Jewish on a job interview once, he went on to give me the job and he was pretty cool so I never brought up anything legal with him. But holy crap, if you're an interviewer you have to know these things, I got taught this stuff in school of what an interviewer can ask you or not, they should know too.
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The saga continues and gets weirder:
So I went to the job interview and the lawyer was actually even more racist in person. According to him every minority he had ever hired had stolen from him and his practice in some way. The exact way he put it was "I'm done hiring niggers and Mexicans, all they do is steal from honest white people. I've hired a lot of minorities and I'm done with it, I've filled my minority hiring quota for my lifetime. It's time to start hiring good hardworking white people, like you, at least they won't steal from me.
He also worked with 2 young blond girls in his office. When they were out he made sexist remarks about how he knows that they're probably going to quit soon because they have boyfriends which means that sooner or later they'll want to just stay home and get their men to make money for them. He also said that the reason that he keeps them around is so that they flirt with the clients a little and make it uncomfortable for the clients to not pay or ask for reduced rates.
The entire interview lasted an hour and a half during which time he barely asked me any questions and I couldn't get a word in edgewise. Somehow he managed to get himself on the topic of the JFK assassination and claimed that he knew that the government planned and carried out the assassination. He emailed me the following video:
Once he finally finished the interview and let me leave I ran into one of the girls who works for him and talked to her a bit outside his office. She said that he's extremely unprofessional, that he yells at them when they're working, and that he pays them daily in cash which is super sketchy. It was also sketchy that he never told me how much he was willing to pay if I was hired and every time I tried to bring it up he changed the subject.
This was pretty much the most bizarre thing that has every happened to me in any kind of professional environment. Just felt I'd share the weird ass story with all of you.
So I went to the job interview and the lawyer was actually even more racist in person. According to him every minority he had ever hired had stolen from him and his practice in some way. The exact way he put it was "I'm done hiring niggers and Mexicans, all they do is steal from honest white people. I've hired a lot of minorities and I'm done with it, I've filled my minority hiring quota for my lifetime. It's time to start hiring good hardworking white people, like you, at least they won't steal from me.
He also worked with 2 young blond girls in his office. When they were out he made sexist remarks about how he knows that they're probably going to quit soon because they have boyfriends which means that sooner or later they'll want to just stay home and get their men to make money for them. He also said that the reason that he keeps them around is so that they flirt with the clients a little and make it uncomfortable for the clients to not pay or ask for reduced rates.
The entire interview lasted an hour and a half during which time he barely asked me any questions and I couldn't get a word in edgewise. Somehow he managed to get himself on the topic of the JFK assassination and claimed that he knew that the government planned and carried out the assassination. He emailed me the following video:
Once he finally finished the interview and let me leave I ran into one of the girls who works for him and talked to her a bit outside his office. She said that he's extremely unprofessional, that he yells at them when they're working, and that he pays them daily in cash which is super sketchy. It was also sketchy that he never told me how much he was willing to pay if I was hired and every time I tried to bring it up he changed the subject.
This was pretty much the most bizarre thing that has every happened to me in any kind of professional environment. Just felt I'd share the weird ass story with all of you.
You know what, just take the job, hold out for a few months and then file a harassment suit together with your coworkers. Or something like that. Start keeping a list of offenses on day one and if this guy is as bad as you make him out to be, then it shouldn't take long until you have something solid on him.
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Run away, this is sounding like the kind of job that would end up as more of a black mark your resume then anything else. Assuming you didn't end up the patsy for some kind of crime and charged for it.
I had a part time job at a small accounting firm between semesters at uni. Anyways, I'm a Sri Lankan Tamil (living in Australia), and so was everyone else who worked at the firm. Basically the owner had hired a bunch of his mates. Since everyone can speak Tamil they often talk in it when they're talking about something private or confidential and don't want to be overheard. The thing is, they also talk about their clients behind their backs. Here are some of the delightful things they said:
-"It's so annoying having to teach these white people math"
-"I thought the flat-noses (meaning anyone from Asia) had their own accountants."
There were probably more but this is just what I could overhear when they were walking past my cubicle. They made sure they were ridiculously polite to a clients face though.
-"It's so annoying having to teach these white people math"
-"I thought the flat-noses (meaning anyone from Asia) had their own accountants."
There were probably more but this is just what I could overhear when they were walking past my cubicle. They made sure they were ridiculously polite to a clients face though.
My advice: say thanks but no thanks and get the hell out of there. Only thing you can do is possibly inform others of this. If you were in a country where people would get government assistance if they'd lose their job I'd recommend to get someone in the government to launch an investigation up his ass, but considering you're (judging by your tale) you're in a country where that's not really an option without having people lose their jobs without backdrop...
And yeah, in my few years I never ever heard such an weird tale.
And yeah, in my few years I never ever heard such an weird tale.
Well I said take the job if the pay was good. Considering you don't even know for sure if you'll get paid at all, screw it. There are always crazies out there, and it's not your job to deal with them, not unless you're getting paid to, and you might not, so screw it.