shadow skill said:
thank you for agreeing and proving that you have a brain unlike the people who think he deserves to be aressted
Well... here we go. Obscenity in Manga trial.
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thank you for agreeing and proving that you have a brain unlike the people who think he deserves to be aressted
Basically it's little kids. Pedophilia more or less though not necessarily pornographic in nature.barryween said:
It was Yaoi not even child porn by any stretch. This guy is getting owned because the drawings do not give away the fact that the characters are actually eighteen plus as per the plot itself.Gormourn said:
I told you so.barryween said:
the problem is that allot of these comics don't specify age, and because of the way their drawn, it can be very difficult to come to a conclusion on what age the characters are. Especially for someone who doesn't normally read them. I'm sorta on the fence. While I don't think Lolicon and other similar mangas are healthy, I'm more scared by the idea that this censorship may eventually spread to American comics and other mediums. I've got a quote here from Niel Gaiman, who is supporting Handleysheic99 said:
?I wrote a story about a serial killer who kidnaps and rapes children, and then murders them,? Gaiman said, referring to a storyline in ?The Doll?s House.? ?We did that as a comic, not for the purposes of titillation or anything like that, but if you bought that comic, you could be arrested for it? That?s just deeply wrong. Nobody was hurt. The only thing that was hurt were ideas.?
I think in the end I side with him, even if I dont feel comfortable with some manga, Im even less comfortable knowing that a cop could arrest me for something a jury doesnt like in my comic book collection.
It's still a stretch though...that's like saying pictures of your children in their bathing suits is 'more or less' paedophilia, then again, I guess it would be in the hands of a paedophile...barryween said:
Still, as for the outcome of this trial, the guy is currently spending 20 freaking years in jail for his 'crimes', even if you agree with the material in his possession being wrong, can you still honestly say that this is a -just- sentence? It's already been said here in this thread...there are far worse crimes, that get far more lenient sentencing that this.
But of course...being as is, because of that same content, it's okay for us to sit back and relax, a disgusting person has gone to jail, for, well...being disgusting. Right?
It's not a stretch loli is just a short form of lolicon which is itself a short form of Lolita Complex. The term derived from the novel Lolita.GothmogII said:
Nono, not the terminology, the usage: i.e: All Lolicon material = Child Porn, despite that not all Lolican material -is- actually pornographic. Unless of course one considers even a fully clothed lolicon figure in a non-erotic pose as also being pornographic.shadow skill said:
After some thought I'm going to go with the freedom of expression people. As distasteful as I find the subject I read manga that could be deemed just as offensive for other reasons. It would be hypocritical to put this guy away.
Not that I like it but often drawing lolicon, or depicted child porn or any form of art, can be a psychological release from not having these actualities in real life, so if you remove a persons ability to fantasize about these misdeeds in an entirely safe way then it might start to leak even further into society.
After all, it's just ink on paper.
After all, it's just ink on paper.
