I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?
CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?
Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
Well, there are people saying that. It's not hard to find, either, even on this very site. Reports of harassment from artists and developers seen as "SJW's" have repeatedly been met with claims of it being faked - most noticeably by people aligning themselves with GG - with only flimsy suppositions to support it. I'm not saying one need blindly believe anyone who cries HARASSMENT but some seem to feel that automatic and sustained rage and dismissal is somehow preferable. In other circles of the internet I've seen the "SJW conspiracy" brought up again and again without irony.MathHamy said:I highly doubt anybody is saying that.
It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
The kind of person that does this.CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
Yeah, I read that. It's stupid that people's emotions have boiled over to the point that that happens. Unreal.PainInTheAssInternet said:The kind of person that does this.CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.861243-Pro-GamerGate-Writer-Sent-Syringe-Through-Mail#21423671
Things have been getting crazy around here.
WhiteNachos said:Isn't Nazism defined by white supremacy (I honestly don't know)? In either case I haven't seen any other Doxxing attack besides this from either side. Nor have I seen many SJWs outside of tumblr calling fir government censorship (and not a whole lot from tumblr)Adam Lester said:WhiteNachos said:This is the same logic used to dismiss GG as misogynists.Witty Name Here said:This is what the SJW side is truly like. This is what those who look at all the evidence and are still Anti-GG support.
Calling a SJW a censorship-happy megalomaniac is like pointing at a neo-nazi and saying "I bet that guy supports white supremacy". You might be generalizing or jumping to conclusions, but are you really wrong for doing so?
CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
OK, I'm gonna stop this here. The long load times and weird message errors are COMMON during the weekends. This happened long before this Zoe Quinn/Gamergate stuff happened. So stop with the conspiracies. It's most likely the hamsters and not a malicious attack. (The errors and load times, not the DDoS attack)PainInTheAssInternet said:The kind of person that does this.CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.861243-Pro-GamerGate-Writer-Sent-Syringe-Through-Mail#21423671
Things have been getting crazy around here.
FYI, I'm the kind of person GG would hate. I don't see much wrong with the press, think everything's gotten overblown and am very much in the camp that believes gaming makes use of seriously troubling tropes. I also think that Anita and Zoe have been hounded far beyond reason and this whole mess has been despicable. In relation to that last point, things have gotten so vitriolic lately that I'm no longer surprised. Someone was mailed a syringe while they were in the midst of all this. I haven't exactly been running along with the "Everything's a Conspiracy" crowd.xaszatm said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...OK, I'm gonna stop this here. The long load times and weird message errors are COMMON during the weekends. This happened long before this Zoe Quinn/Gamergate stuff happened. So stop with the conspiracies. It's most likely the hamsters and not a malicious attack. (The errors and load times, not the DDoS attack)PainInTheAssInternet said:The kind of person that does this.CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.861243-Pro-GamerGate-Writer-Sent-Syringe-Through-Mail#21423671
Things have been getting crazy around here.
You've been living in an echo chamber since day 1. When I said I didn't keep up with it, I meant I didn't keep up with that ridiculously long thread, I know the timeline just fine. But trying to say that everything that happened pre Baldwin coming up with a hashtag not being 'gamergate' is downright dishonest.Ultratwinkie said:If you're using the revolutionary war as an example, Gamergate started about 3-5 years ago when the industry went to shit and gamers became cynical. The exact same time when doom and gloom took hold in the industry.Jux said:Historical revisionism and cherry picking at its finest. You may as well say the american revolutionary war didn't start till july 4th 1776 because before then the declaration of independence hadn't been signed yet.Ultratwinkie said:Gamergate came way after that. People think of it was the zoe quinn thing but it didn't start until TFYC and Adam Baldwin showed up.Revnak said:watUltratwinkie said:First gamergate started for integrity after journalists destroyed a charity for women
I mean, I was here, on this site, when the first thread about the issue was really put up, and half of the complaints were about how Zoe was a slut. Not saying that that is all anybody cared about, but to say that people weren't saying shit like that is blatantly false.
Gamergate came out of the revelation that TFYC was silenced by corrupt journalists. Who then posted racist shit like wanting to start violence against blacks for oogling white women.
And If I remember correctly: You said you didn't keep up with the thread or gamergate. Meaning you weren't around when Adam Baldwin coined the phrase. Which was the time when TYFC got restarted and then hacked.
I have been following everything since day 1. Watching the thread and twitter feeds for entire days on the latest news.
Why? because this is the most interesting thing to happen to gaming ever. Not many days do you see journalists call for violence against blacks. Not many days do you see the industry implode by the mere thought of a nonwhite playing a game.
Perhaps if you read my earlier post, I did pose the question if Kross' hamsters were suffering from sensory overload. And, as I replied to Fappy, I did concede that the message error was common; however, as it coincided the lag, I was worried about the possibly of maliciousness behind it.xaszatm said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...OK, I'm gonna stop this here. The long load times and weird message errors are COMMON during the weekends. This happened long before this Zoe Quinn/Gamergate stuff happened. So stop with the conspiracies. It's most likely the hamsters and not a malicious attack. (The errors and load times, not the DDoS attack)PainInTheAssInternet said:The kind of person that does this.CrazyCapnMorgan said:It was stupid slow right at the 4pm mark and now it's just slow. Who has a bug so far up their ass that they would intentionally set out to do this sort of thing to The Escapist?PainInTheAssInternet said:CrazyCapnMorgan said:I just had a major lag spike in terms of getting The Escapist to load for me. Anyone else having this issue?Yup. Tried to post and got a blank screen for a few minutes.First Lastname said:Welp folks, I seem to be experiencing longer than usual load times and the previously mentioned message bug. I think we may be experiencing an attack yet again...
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.861243-Pro-GamerGate-Writer-Sent-Syringe-Through-Mail#21423671
Things have been getting crazy around here.
Wait, because I don't follow with baited breath every inane post of every amateur sleuth bent on proving his conspiracy theory that the feminists and 'SJWs' are coming to take over gaming, then I'm not following it? K.Ultratwinkie said:Well so have you. You admitted to not following it but that doesn't stop you from hating it. Its obvious you don't know the damn timeline if I have to explain it for you.
hell, you make up personal hang ups to justify not doing anything because of a shit storm that died a month ago. To argue on a scandal from a month ago.
Ahh, I see then. That thread was quite benign from what I read though, if they are targeting you over that, I hardly even know what to say. It also means the attack is much more sophisticated than simple DDoS, as that is usually the work of a teenager downloading dodgy code from an internet dive bar/forum, and running it. This is odd. Even I could be targeted from my logical fallacies thread from a few weeks ago.Jack T. Pumpkin said:I know what a DDoS is. My point was that on top of the DDoS, they also seem to be going after members individually, which has been mentioned in the big thread. Guessing the reason for me being hit was the thank you to mr. Tito thread.Ryan Hughes said:That is not what a DDoS does. What kind of attack was this? DDoS simply overwhelms secure login servers with requests. It alone simply cannot gather or gain information. It seems everyone's avatars were reset though, this may or may not be evidence of other actions.
In fairness, I overreacted. May have just been another guy on the other end of the planet with a similar email. I immediately jumped to 'someone tried to brute-force it' because of the timing; I'm bad with coincidences.Ryan Hughes said:Ahh, I see then. That thread was quite benign from what I read though, if they are targeting you over that, I hardly even know what to say. It also means the attack is much more sophisticated than simple DDoS, as that is usually the work of a teenager downloading dodgy code from an internet dive bar/forum, and running it. This is odd. Even I could be targeted from my logical fallacies thread from a few weeks ago.
It is rare to see more sophisticated attacks nowadays, as DDoS has taken over in the last few years. The thing is, that most of the more sophisticated crowd usually wouldn't touch gamergate with a ten foot pole, let alone get involved to this extent. As for me, I have largely tried to remain neutral, moderate, or stay out of it.
Then.Stats ^1 said:I.Josh12345 said:Obviously people that had nothing to do with GG until now, and this DDoS attack has brought it into centre stage.
Seriously? I could spend hours explaining why GG is important, but luckily other people have done that for me. But TL;DR: Corruption in the press, followed by conflicts of interest, then censorship, then shit flinging by both SJWs and GGers, rinse, repeat.
Anyone that says Zoe Quinn is relevant now is lying. She was the catalyst for this whole corruption scandal, and the only way she makes herself relevant now is in relation to the people she allegedly slept with, the charity she allegedly ruined, and those Cracked articles where she's trying to get our attention.
Also, for whoever DDoS'ed the site: Fuck you.
I'm willing to bet with an 80% certainty it want someone from the Anti-GG side.
The Escapist has been one of the few sites to allow discussion about this whole fiasco, and (in general) those on the GG side tended to want transparency, and wanted to get to the bottom of this rabbit hole, while (in general) people against them spent less time making valid points, but more time getting bogged down in whether this is misogyny, or bigotry, or getting bogged down in minutia, or came in still thinking the discussion was still about Zoe Quinn.
The site that allowed discussion had the GG side winning in a lot of the arguments, and got their points across.
So what benefit would it be for them to shut down one of the only sites that they had ground in?
It couldn't have been them, unless there's proof, which there isn't. Stating that it was the GG crowd that brought the DDoS because 'False Flag' is nonsense, it makes you sound like a 9/11 Truther.
For it being some sick troll's idea of a good time: I could see that happening, but there are much juicier targets than the Escapist to go after, and, with for instance Lulsec, they came out afterwards and announced they did it.
As for the Anti-GG side, there's no proof they did it either.
HOWEVER. This side has a proven track record of DDoSing sites before, and according to TFYC, they were doxxed by this group.
There's no outright proof one side or another did ANYTHING, but if one guy has a gun and the other has a knife, and there's a body on the floor with a bullet in it, who's the killer? The guy with the knife COULD have found a gun and shot it to frame the other guy, but it's much more likely the guy with a gun shot, especially when there's rumours flying around that he's killed before.
Don't.
Care.
Your ridiculous ramblings are no excuse to make a separate thread for this issue. It already has a huge thread dedicated to it.