We're all Terrible People

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Markness

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To me, the sheer number of charities is a paradox. Surely, if you had money that you felt like giving to a worthy cause, you would give it to the most worthy cause? Now there will be some disagreement over what is exactly the most worthy cause, but many, many, (I'd say the vast majority) of charities are easily seen as not being as beneficial as others.

For example. Note: Please try and take the following argument rationally. Seeing eye dogs: Ok good use of money I guess. Helps improve the quality of life of blind people and most certainly money better spent that buying a foot massage machine. But seriously? Compare the value of your charity.

1. $100 towards the seeing eye dog foundation. Your money pays for a fraction of the training of 1 dog that would slightly improve the quality of life of a blind person.
2. $100 towards starving children. You probably save the lives of multiple children and vastly increase their quality of life.

Why, when presented with these two options, would anyone choose the dog?

I'm constantly perplexed by animal charities. People giving money to them should just straight out say they value the continued existence of that particular species far more than human lives. Or that they consider a blind person having a seeing eye dog far more important than human lives.

This can even be extended further.Imagine you could save 10$ by walking to a supermarket 1km away or just buy a few items at a corner store near you. I'm sure many people would do this, but isn't that sort of the same as denying a starving child food, when you could have donated that 10$ to charity?

It's obvious that we, as a race, have somehow evolved to only display altruistism or sympathy when we are directly confronted with the problem. That's how we so quickly feeling sorry for pandas and then people.

The best amoung us is, by their ignoring of other people's plight, committing crimes that would land you many years in jail is those people happened to be near you. For all you spiteing those who leave their children to starve while they go out drinking and get criminal sentences for it, are you really so different?

Please no captain obvious for saying this, but you can now see why We are all Terrible People. (especially you, you know who you are)

*note I did make a somewhat similar topic about a year ago, but I wanted some more opinions.
 

Iron Criterion

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CORRODED SIN said:
I hate human beings, so I would much rather pay for the dog to be awesome.
This. But then again my money could be better spent trying to create ways to destroy humanity...
 

Internet Kraken

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Markness said:
1. $100 towards the seeing eye dog foundation. Your money pays for a fraction of the training of 1 dog that would slightly improve the quality of life of a blind person.
2. $100 towards starving children. You probably save the lives of multiple children and vastly increase their quality of life.

Why, when presented with these two options, would anyone choose the dog?
So you're really criticizing people for donating to certain charities instead of other ones?

I'm sorry, but that's just stupid. You should be glad that people are being charitable in the first place.
 

ZeLunarian

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CORRODED SIN said:
I hate human beings, so I would much rather pay for the dog to be awesome.
That was ownage
op: Some people give to causes that they would have a more personal vendetta with. And I really do believe that giving to random causes really doesnt constitute charity as actually believing in one.
Tho i'm in no position to speak x.x I don't donate money. But i generally try to help people/families along with smaller things on a day to day basis... Or so i like to think.
 

ProfessorLayton

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Milky_Fresh said:
I don't give to charities, I give to homeless people though.
Don't ask me why, I don't really know. Maybe the ads just piss me off.
Maybe because you can't trust charities? Honestly you can't trust anyone.
 

Insanum

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Dogs are small and furry. People like dogs.

Kids grow up.

Personally, Im not paying for some fat cat guy at Oxfam to sit in a big house. Ill keep my money.
 

ProfessorLayton

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Milky_Fresh said:
Well I don't really trust the homeless people to not just go and buy heroin though... idunno.
The main difference, though, is that a homeless person isn't a corporation... down with the man!
 

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ProfessorLayton said:
Milky_Fresh said:
I don't give to charities, I give to homeless people though.
Don't ask me why, I don't really know. Maybe the ads just piss me off.
Maybe because you can't trust charities? Honestly you can't trust anyone.
No, you can't.

I'm a 'terrible person' because I don't want to help people I don't know. My money won't make a difference so fuck it, I'd rather get the God of War trilogy or something.
 

ProfessorLayton

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Jaranja said:
No, you can't.

I'm a 'terrible person' because I don't want to help people I don't know. My money won't make a difference so fuck it, I'd rather get the God of War trilogy or something.
Your money actually could make a difference. In fact, for just pennies a day, you can help Jerome right here eat for an entire week...

I'm kidding, but you're probably right. It's actually a pretty terrible thing to not be able to trust people who say they will be giving money to children to just use it for themselves. I'm just a selfish person, though.
 

DkLnBr

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There is a saying that comes to mind here, "give a man a fish, feed him for a day. teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime." If you give money to feed people over seas, then you only delay the problem, just sweeping it under the proverbial rug to deal with later. But something like a seeing eye dog (while a less serious issue) stays with them for their life (or at least the dogs life).
 

Marine Mike

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Markness said:
I'm constantly perplexed by animal charities. People giving money to them should just straight out say they value the continued existence of that particular species far more than human lives.
Ok... I value the lives of animals far more than human lives. You're right though, we are all terrible people that do horrible things and I'm fine with that fact. We all try too hard to make ourselves believe that we are separate from nature and somehow the rules don't apply to us anymore, but thats not the case. Animals starve in nature, its how the world works, what makes you think that it should be any different for us?
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Markness said:
1. $100 towards the seeing eye dog foundation. Your money pays for a fraction of the training of 1 dog that would slightly improve the quality of life of a blind person.
2. $100 towards starving children. You probably save the lives of multiple children and vastly increase their quality of life.
Do you really think providing food and water will secure the quality of life for children in, let's say, sub-Saharan Africa? The 3rd world's been systematically picked apart and screwed over by imperial powers since the Europeans first got their eyes on the continent, and even with the fall of colonial empires, it hasn't really stopped. Between the exploitation of cash crops, the corrupt unstable governments, and the rogue military groups, there will be no shortage of starving children. Handouts and humanitarian groups can only do so much - with your money they can feed some starving children today, but they can't secure them a future. "Don't give us more food, take away their guns."

You're blaming us for taking the time to patch up all the people with broken legs instead of putting bandaids on a patient with terminal cancer. Some problems can be more readily fixed with simple donations than others. Besides, just because a problem isn't life threatening, that doesn't mean it doesn't merit attention.